I just moved into a house (famliliar situation around here) and I found a manual for the alarm system. The manual is the VIA-30Pse, however the system is wireless and the only panel looks exactly like the 6128RF. The panel is wired into the system, but every sensor is wireless I believe. As far as I know, there are 3 doors and 1 motion, but I don't know if any windows are on the system. I'm guessing no since I can't find any sensors, but I wouldn't mind adding some.

BACKGROUND:

I couldn't get in contact w\ the previous owner (surprise), so I powered down the system and retrieved the installer code as per the instructions in previous threads. I can panic the system, however it does not recognize any of the sensors. When it came back on-line, it had "dR" (I think) on the screen. It recognized the sensors before I power cycled the system because the "Ready" light would turn off when they were tripped.

I have downloaded the manual for the 6128RF and have looked through the VIA-30Pse manual, but I'm not getting the proper response from the panel. I try to enter the programming mode via pressing "1 and 3" but instead of giving me the option to enter the keypad address (cA), reciever address (rA), etc., it just says "31." I can change the number and it gets mad.

Do I need to program the sensors manually, or can I use the "Sniffer" function, or am I just an idiot? The process makes no sense to me since I'm not getting the response from the keypad that the manuals say that I should expect. I have worked on this for hours and now I'm afraid that I have inadvertantly changed a bunch of settings.

What in the world should I do now?!

 

to go into programming pres star & pound. 1 & 3 to change the k.p address.

 

I don't think that you have the 6128RF keypad. While it is compatable with the VIA 30, for this panel, the wireless reciever is usually mounted in the panel cabinet. It is possible that they used the RF keypad, but it would be a rather atypical installaton.

The regular 6128 keypad and the RF look basically the same.
There are an extra set of relay terminals on the RF that the other doesn't have.
(31, by the way is non-adressable mode, and is what the panel requires, which is why it won't let you mess with the address)

The "DR" was probably "DL" which is the equivalant of busy-standby on a full alpha keypad.

Either way, what you may have done was either A: changed the value of field *22 which sets the wireless reciever, or B: entered *97, which defaults everything.

 

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. What can I do to remedy the situation?

I did some more snooping in the cabinet and it looks like you are right. There is a module affixed towards the top of the box and has 2 possible antennae sticking out of the top of the box.

If I hit *97 (I very possibly did), then what do I do?

Do I need a "1" in the *22 field? If so, do I need to press # + * and then *22? Pressing #+* sets off the panic alarm. Should I be holding it down?

Thanks again for all of the help.

 

I went into program mode, hit *22 and set the value=2. Now I'm getting a "Check 09" message. The only way that I know of to get into the program mode is to unhook the power at the box, and then when it says "Dl" I press #+*

Also, When I power the system down, the installer code changes. The first time the code was 3382, then 0022, then 2002. Is that supposed to happen? From what others write, it doesn't sound like it. I can't find anyone to come out and service the system in Bakersfield, CA and am just about ready to call ProtectionOne (who apparently installed the system) and let them program it. The only catch is that they want a year contract (surprise surprise). I really don't want to, but I don't know what else to do.

 

It sounds like you are inadvertantly changing the value in the installer code field when you are trying to move to another field.

Do the power up entry into program mode. Enter #20 and record the numbers the panel reads back. Exit with *99. You should be able to enter program mode with [code] + 8 + 0. It sounds like you have the installer manual, but not the programming sheets tht give a full list of the fields.

Look at the reciever board: What is the model number (it will be on a label on one of the chips, or on the edge of the PC board)?

 

The board has a sticker that reads: 30SE and another one that says: New Q.E.D programming.

Is this the information that you need? Yes I do ahve the manual, but I don't have any sheet that walks me through the progarmming process.

Thanks again for you help MrRon.

 

The number we need off of the reciever (the sub board with the antennae) is going to be a 4 digit number followed by a letter. It will be 4xxx or 5xxx.

 

There is a number on that board that says: SA5881 MED K

 

Ok, just making sure you didn't have the other type of reciever. The Check 9 is either a tamper on an expander, or you entered a value in *25 (wired expansion/relay). Since you say you were pushing keys blindly, you may have little glitches like this throughout.

I hate to say, since you sound a little lost on this procedure, you might need to have a pro reconfigure this panel for you. Depending on your location, you might be able to find a security system installer that handles "orphan" systems. It's a main line Ademco, so a lot of installers are familar with them.

Ademco makes good hardware, but setup wise, they are more like setting up a computer in the days of DOS.

 

why do'nt default the panel and program it from scratch option 97 will default it for you .09 is a zone on the expandor ,make sure you are using the right resistore for this one which is different from the ones on the board.

 

Thanks. Where can I get the programming sheets?

 

Check the same source you got the Install manual from, if they don't have them, let me know.

 

I found the manual sitting in a drawer in the house when I moved in. I have no idea where to get the proper instructions. This manual says that I should be getting plain english prompts for the function settings, but I don't. It just has numbers like "27" then it waits for input then it cycles to the next number.

 

If none of your existing keypads are of the full alpha type, you won't get the proper info. The only area that not having an alpha keypad is really crippling is when you are messing with things like the zone settings

Check the online manual vendors, like AlarmMall to get the programming sheets.

Check inside the system cabinet, if you haven't yet, often installers leave the sheets in the system can (they are usually blue tinted paper).