5881EN receiver questions


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Old 06-22-05, 01:00 PM
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5881ENHC receiver questions

I recently purchased a house with a 10SE and several hardwired zones. I've managed to upgrade to a 20PS (actually a SW 3000), and have everything working (well, mostly).

1. I went out and got a 5881ENHC so that I could add wireless. The wiring harness has the four standard wires, plus a blue wire. What's the blue wire intended for?

2. Second question, the receiver board has two little tamper switches on the front/back. Shouldn't they issue a trouble if tripped? Or rather, when I trip them nothing is reporting a fault/trouble.

3. The receiver board has a little red jumper that looks exactly like the bell supervision jumper on the ECP. I understand the bell supervision, but what does the receiver's jumper do?

4. Do I need to do something more than plug in the receiver? Reading the manuals, it seems like there's nothing to program per se -- that is the programming all concerns the wireless transmitters. The receiver seems to be sort of invisible to the ECP.

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Old 06-22-05, 04:28 PM
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On some of the keypads, that blue wire was intended for some 2-way voice functions that I've never seen anyone actually use. It may be to accomodate some future bi-directional function.

Assuming that you have followed the instructions for the main panel, and set the address of the new board for 00. The board you describe sounds like one of the ENHC models, and there is a caution in the install instructions that those need to be in their little housing, or you will get constant tampers.
 
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Old 06-23-05, 08:54 AM
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Not seeing tamper

Thanks for the info on the blue wire. I mostly wanted to make sure it wasn't intended as a loop for zone monitoring/supervision or something.

Yes, the board is a 5881ENHC. I kept the board in the plastic case, cause like you said otherwise it would always be tripped. I have the DIP switches set to address "0".

Here's the problem: I'm not seeing any trouble/fault even when the 5881's case is open. Do I need to somehow enroll the 5881's case like I would a transmitter? Or, do I need to set up some sort of custom zone type in *182? (I doubt this is the answer, since I'd still be missing a zone number for *56).

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Question 5881ENHC Compatability

Maybe this is the problem -- some sources say the 5881ENHC is not compatible with my 20PS board. But the 5881's box says "compatible with all Vista controls"?

I found a product data sheet (dated 12/2004) for the 5881ENHC on the manufacturers site. It lists the following controls:
  • Vista 32FB
  • Vista 128BP
  • Vista 128FBP
  • Vista 250BP
  • Vista 250FBP
  • FA1600 Series
  • FA1700 Series
Similarly, one of the alarm vendor sites says the 5881ENHC is compatible with these controls:
  • Vista 32FB Rev 3, or higher
  • Vista 128B Rev 3, or higher
  • Vista 128FB Rev 4, or higher
  • FA1600 Series Rev 8, or higher

So, which is it? Will the 5881ENHC work with a 20PS?

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Old 06-24-05, 02:22 PM
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According to Honeywell's website, this reciever is compatable with a V-20ps.

You do, however, have the ADT modified version, so that might be the issue, but somehow I doubt it. This is one of the least modified that they've used. One of the ADT guys like Steve might have more insite.

There doesn't seem to be any point in the programming where you have to "turn on" the wireless. There's a line for enabling wireless keypads, but that's all.
 
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The 5881enhc may very well work (wireless features) with the vista20ps - however supervision will only be available with the vista32 and up, as this is a commercial UL device and the vista20ps is not! There is no place to set this type of supervision in the v20ps.

I also could not find where the 5881 "enhc" should be used with the V20ps, the "c" is the problem - commercial. Tech states "No Compatability" - sorry

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That was based on the compatibility list that comes up on the Honeywell WebTech site. It lists the V-20PS for the ENHC, but again, the ADT versions have odd omissions and additional features.
 
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Hi Ron, just to clarify - if i'm wrong let me know - I went back to mywebtech and looked again, if you search for 5881enhc and click on compatibility with vista20ps, then click "Notes" - at the top it says "there is no info about compatibility on vista20ps with the 5881enhc", however it would look like it is compatible as it's in the list!

I looks like 5881enh is the only thing close that is.
If you saw a confirmation some where else let me know as I would like to know - for future
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Nope, that's the information I was working with. It's kinda hard to tell, especially since the system he's working with isn't even a straight 20ps.

I know that the prices are tempting, but sometimes this bit of buying hardware off of auction sites just opens a lot of worm cans.
 
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Maybe it does work...

I went back and hooked the 5881ENHC up again. This time I made sure the tamper switch was closed before powering up the ECP. I also quickly enrolled a 5804 to give it something to process. Everything seems to be fine, but I'm letting it sit (w/o a siren) for a couple of days to make sure.

It gives a Check 100 if the tamper is opened. Last week it was giving Check 104. The only way I could clear these was to go into programmer mode. (CODE + 8 + 0 + 0).

BTW, I think the Check 104 was because I didn't power up with the 5881ENHC's case closed.
 
 

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