Can I use a wireless KP with 5881?

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Old 02-27-06, 04:30 PM
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Can I use a wireless KP with 5881?

I currently use an Ademco Vista 20P hybrid with a 5882 3NM receiver. I have two wired KPs (6160 and 6160V), 3 door contacts, 1 motion, and the following wireless: 1 door, 2 5890 PIRs, 1 wireless key. I'd like to put a keypad on the third floor, but getting the wire there is nearly impossible without an extreme makeover. I understand some wireless KPs have receivers which would conflict. Is there a model with transmitter only that I can add to my system? The catalogs don't make it clear.

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Old 02-27-06, 06:23 PM
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Yup, the 5828 keypad will co-exist with your hardware nicely. You have to make a couple of small programming changes, but your system shouldn't give you an issue with it.
 
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wireless KP with 5882

Thanks for the help. Am I correct that my "SA5882 3NM" (read from the bar code label on the receiver's pc board) is sixteen channels? I have searched and found many references to 5881 and 5882 receivers, but none with the "3NM" suffix. I'm assuming the "M" in my particular suffix means the same as the others - 16 channels, as it does in the "ENM" suffix.
 
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I wonder if tha't not a simple typo, and the 3 is supposed to be an E (the keys are right above one another). It could also be a part number varient for First Alert, Security Link, or ADT, all of which rebrand this hardware.
 
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Flag on the play! I stopped by my local Ademco distributor today to pick up the 5828 and was told it will NOT work with a 5881 and that it requires the 6160RF. They seemed quite certain about this. Any thoughts?

I read the instruction sheet with the 5828, but Ademco doesn't offer a lot of info.
 
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From the installer sheet:

The 5828 and 5828V are wireless, bidirectional, fixed-word,
nonaddressable keypads that are used in conjunction with
LYNX Series control panels or VISTA Series control panels
that are using a 6160RF Keypad transceiver
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I stand corrected. I read the specs from the promo literature, and didn't pull up the installation sheet.
 
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Thanks, Mr Ron. I had thought you were correct and that the sales person was mistaken, using logic that the wireless KP should work like any other wireless device, but I'm learning Ademco doesn't always follow logic......... ;-)

That means I have to dump my 5881 in favor of a 6150RF or 6160RF in order to add a 5828, creating more questions:

How many wireless zones does a 6150RF allow? (I'll need more than 8, less than 16)

Will the 6150RF support a 5828V, with voice funtions?

And, please comment on the choice of 6150RF or 6160RF as I'm told Ademco is having problems with the 6160RF. One of my wired KPs is a 6160V, so I've got alpha and voice on the first floor, making me think I only need a 6150RF.

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I currently use an Ademco Vista 20P hybrid with a 5882 3NM receiver. I have two wired KPs (6160 and 6160V), 3 door contacts, 1 motion, and the following wireless: 1 door, 2 5890 PIRs, 1 wireless key. I'd like to put a keypad on the third floor, but getting the wire there is nearly impossible without an extreme makeover. I understand some wireless KPs have receivers which would conflict. Is there a model with transmitter only that I can add to my system? The catalogs don't make it clear.

Thanks for a great forum!

Yes you can get a wireless handheld keypad... neat thing too...

http://www.security.honeywell.com/hs.../wi/21213.html

you will want to get the keypad 5827BD and a 5800TM module to give you system status etc...

or you could go with a VIP voice module and turn every phone in the house into a keypad if you have phones on the third floor.
 
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Great! I would think the 5827BD-PK will be less expensive than buying a 6150RF and a 5828V. I've looked at it with the link you provided and have questions about it:

Does it use one zone on my 5881 or more (like the 5804 wireless key which uses 4)?

Is it voice feedback?

Will it provide the chime function when a door is faulted (panel programmed to chime, wired KPs do)?

Thanks for jumping in and helping.
 
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Does it use a zone ... no

voice feedback ... no

it will chime when it is active i believe but i am not 100% sure

and it has all of the status lights that a normal kepad would have .

If you have phones on the third floor a VIP (vista interactive phone) voice module would give you voice feedback and everything else.
 
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I don't think I want the VIP because (I'm assuming....) you have to pick up a phone and input some keystrokes to have it do anything. I'm after a quick visual reference (status lights), easy arm/disarm capability (wife not high tech), and especially the chime feature (teenage kids who might some night decide to sneak out).

What do you think now?
 
 

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