Hi guys
i just bought a new DSC 832 PC5010 with one LCD5501Z for key pad
i dont know much about alarm
ive setup all wires at right place (i think)
power - horn - keypad - phone line - zone

now ... This is what i want to do ...

zone 1 - front door - 45sec delay in and 120sec delay out - with door chime
zone 2 - garage door - 45sec delay in and 120sec delay out - with door chime
zone 3 - 3 motion detector (first floor) - 45sec delay in and 120sec delay out
zone 4 - 3 motion detector (second floor) - instant zone
zone 5 - 3 motion detector (second floor) - instant zone
zone 6 - 4 motion detector (basement) - instant zone
zone 7 - not use
zone 8 - not use

thats what i tried to program in the key pad as soon as it was powered up

*8 [5010]
[000]
0
11
# #

*8 [5010] 902

*8 [5010]
[001]
02 02 02 03 03 03 00 00
[005]
045 120 045 120 045 120 (not sur with this line)
# #

please someone help ... I cant make it work like its supose 2

thanks Frank

 

You were close. You had the right idea, but just picked the wrong zone types.

It should have been:
001
01 01 04 04 04 04 00 00

005
045 045 120 005

# # to exit programming.

This sets all of the motions as interior zones. They will automatically delay only if one of the entry/exit doors is opened first, otherwise they are instant.

If you want to be able to move around the house with the doors armed, use zone type 05 instead, which will automatically bypass the motions if the system is armed without opening and closing an entry/exit door.

There' only 4 entry slots in the timer settings (005). Your original set of entries set delay 1 to 45 sec, Delay 2 (which you were trying to use for your first 3 zones) to 120 sec; Exit delay to 45 sec, and the siren time-out to 120 minutes (most municipalities require 5-10 min, max); then you jumped to programming section 045 (which doesn't exist).

 

thanks MrRonFL

before i do the complet setup of my alarm with both door contact and all the motion dectector ... i want to make a simple test with only the front door contact installed ... here what i did

*8 [5010]
[000]
0
11
# #

*8 [5010] 902

*8 [5010]
[001]
01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[005]
045 045 120 005
# #

and after that my keypad still detect that zone 1 is still open (or maybe means its not working at all) and its just a simple door contact

the contact is directly plug in the alarm box with about 60 feet of wire
(one wire is conected in zone 1 and the other is pluged in the COM right next to it)

is it suppose to be pluged this way ?
or am i missing more programation ?

thanks again
Frank

 

Make sure your contact switches are as close as possible. Usually 1/4" - 1/8" is good.

 

Have you tried reversing those two wires?

 

ive tested the wire / contact with my tester when the door is close and it does work fine .. and also tried to reverse the wire ... what else can i try ?

 

If you are not going to install the zone resistors on the loops, you need to disable the resistor feature:

Go to program and turn on option 1 in section 013.

Otherwise, simply install a resistor on the loop. It doesn't matter which side of the loop, it just needs to be in the circuit.

 

witch kind of resistor ? in my kit, dsc supplied 2 or 3 kind ?
and please expland me more in detail by what u mean "the loop"
install where exatly the resistor ? in the the alarm box ?

thanks again

 

The 5.6 k ohm resistors (green, blue, red). The loop is the circuit containing the normally closed switches that comprise an alarm detection loop. The loop refers to the fact that it's a basic series circuit.

 

ok .. but still dont quit figure out where to put them ... if i use option 1 in section 013 do i still need to use those resistor ?

i did my test using only the front door contact with 013 option 1 and my test was succesful (green light was on and ready to be armed)

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now i just finish installing all my motion detector et both contact for both doors

i enter those code

001
01 01 04 04 04 04 00 00
005
045 045 120 005
# # to exit programming

and the motion detector are not recognized .. its exactly like when i did my test with my front door contact only

what should i do in order to get all my system operational with both contact and motion detector (all 6 zone i need)

thanks again

 

Did you connect the motions to power? They are 4-wire devices (2 for 12v power, and 2 for alarm zone connection). If they don't have power, the relays will default to open.

No, if you turn on the section 13 option, you don't need to install a resistor in the circuit, that's the difference between Normally Closed, and EOL wiring.

 

yes they are powered up ... they light on when someone pass by
they are not powered up by alarm system it self
they are powered individualy by a "transformer" (my motion detector are with built in camera in) so they are powerd by transformer and then you have the 3 regular plugs NC and COM and NO (i cant recall for sure for the last one)

i pluged 1 wire in NC (in the detector) to ZONE in the alarm box and 1 wire to COM (in the detector) to COM in the alarm box and left the last plug empty (NO)

and i repeated that to all my motion detector

so in other word all motion dector light on when i pass by them
and they are not recognized by the key pad
it is only the door contact who is recognied by the key pad

 

It depends on how you are trying to test them:

zone type 04 will not chime; you can watch the ready light turn on and off as a helper moves in the field of view, but that it.

zone type 04 will automatically bypass unless you open and close zone 1 or zone 2 (an entry/exit zone) during the exit delay.

 

ive tested many time over and over again ....

i can armed the system even if motion detector are on
(what i was expecting to do is ... stop moving so all motion detector shut down so that the gren light "ready" comes on and then armed the system and then go out)

i ask someone on the second floor to stand still for about 3 or 4 min after i armed the alarm and go out of the house and after that to start moving to test if the alarm will instantly go off .... and it does not

the only way i can make the alarm go off , if it i come in thru the door and purposely dont disarmed the keypad ... the alarm wont go off using the sensor anywhere in the house

it looks like its only the doors contact are recognized by the keypad

should i plug multiple sensor in the same ZONE and COM in "SERIES" or can i do it in "PARALLEL" ???

 

The way you described the setup, each motion detector is on it's own zone input. If there are more than one detector in each of these zones, then the individual devices should be in a series circuit. That way if any single one is activated it breaks the loop.

 

series look like this ???? in the same zone


zone1 com1
| |
| com | zone com|zone |
| / \ / \ |
| / \ / \ |
| / \ / \ |
| / \ / \ |
| / \ / \ |
detector 1 detector2 detector3

 

please check the picture in the following link
to show you what i did and to understand exactely what you just explane to me

thanks again

http://64.177.114.23/detector.jpg

 

The way you did it, you wired all of the devices in parallel. The only way to get a zone activation with that configuration is if all devices are active at the same time (a trick that has some legit uses...)

If by the upper diagramme, you were showing connecting inputs together with a crimp connector and connecting the two outer ones to the zone inputs on the control, then yes, that is a proper series circuit.

 

it works .... thanks alot for your help

is it possible if the alarm goes off that it automaticly call my cell phone ?

i tried [301] by entering my phone number and it was not succseful once the alarm went off ive waited a few minutes to see if it would call ... and it did not

thanks again

 

Give the section in the manual on communicator programming a careful read. Every zone and trouble that you want to activate the dialer has to have a report code programmed in, or nothing happens.