Hello guys, im new here as you can tell for the number of posts i have.

I am a very technical person, pretty handy so i decided to buy an alarm system on ebay (honeywell) and install it myself.

I order a vista 10p with a 6270 keypad and a wireless receiver bc i didnt want any wired running around my apt.


After i install everything i realize my keypad was saying ECP ERROR, so i researched a little and found out that 6270 doesnt with with 10p... so i asked my provided to solve the problem and he did by sending me a 20p circuit board.

The problem is that after installing it i still get ECP error, the keypad is set up at address 16, funny thing is that only when i set it up at 16 i get three beeps every couple of seconds and i get no noise in any other address.

Any ideas? please?

Thanks a lot!

 

Welcome to the Forums!

Do you have a additional keypad? I believe Ademco's programming says the 6270 is a AUI and not a keypad, therefor this device needs to be set as ' 01 ' and not 16.

I think, and MrRonFl will correct if I'm wrong, but you need another keypad, either 6139, 6150, 6150, etc as your main keypad and this 6270 as a secondary.

 

Yes, if you read through the install instructions for the 20p, there's a couple of points where they state that you need at least one conventional keypad. Even the fixed alpha keypad will work, because once you have the 6270 up and running, you can use it for things like menu programming that the fixed alpha keypad cannot do. The 6160 or equivalent is a better choice, though.

It's really easy to miss, it's a single sentence buried in the midst of a paragraph of text, and may be in the 6270 manual.

 

First of all thanks guys!

I have tried the ECP 1 address and still the same error

So i need a regular keypad or i am screwed? this is sad... i want to get this thing running!

 

Yes, you need a conventional keypad in order to activate the AUI device.

 

Alright, i'll see how i get that and i'll get back to you guys!

thanks!!

alex

 

The retailer says this, what should i answer?


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I don't have any 6160 or 6139 programming keypad in
stock. I know for a fact that you can use a 6128 to
program the panel & default it as my installers have
used the 6128 to program. The only difference between
them is that the programming KP tell you if there is
an error via the LCD screen, while the 6128 will tell
you errors by beaping.

I have the 6128 ready to ship to you if you want to
try that out or you can buy a 6160 or 6139 somewhere
on ebay if you wish.

I have had installers tell me that they have
programmed using the 6270 before.

Let me know how you would like to proceed, but this is
where I stand at the moment.
If I had a programming KP, I would loan it to you
ASAP.
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Yes, that's what I said. The fixed alpha keypad (like a 6128 or 6150) will allow you to activate the AUI device. Once online, you can use the 6270 to do the rest of your programming.

 

And you'll be kind enough to tell me how?

Please say yes, please say yes!

Thanks!

 

When you get your other keypad, that will be addressed to 16, and the 6270 will be 01.

To get it to 01, go into field *189, then 1.

This is located on page 4-13 of the the installer guide:

http://www.alarmeengros.com/installation15P.pdf

 

Not trying to hijack alito's thread but I have a related question regarding your last post. I have a 20P that I am installing along with a 6160V and a 6270. Is the 6160 always set to address 16 and the 6270 to 01? Also, I have never had two keypads before. I want to use the 6160v in my 2nd floor master bedroom and the 6270 by the front door. Will both keypads chime when a door/window is opened/closed or just one?

 

Yes, your 6160 would be addressed to 16, and the 6270 to 01 as stated in the previous post.

Both should chime.

If you were going with another keypad other then the 6270, it would be addressed to 17.

 

Page 4-1 of the 6270 install manual says "The 6270 will not be fully operational unless its address in the control panel has been enabled for an alpha console, AUI type device, and assigned a partition." When I first powered the system on the 6270 asked for the address and I selected 1. I set the address for the 6160 to 16. How do I enable the 6270 for alpha console and AUI type device?

 

You set it too 1 in the *189 field?

 

Thanks HotinOKC! I must have missed that.

 

No I set it to 1 on the 6270 when it 1st powered up. It came up with a box that asked for the address. I'm assuming something is wrong, as I try to add a user and it gives an error message "panel response: installer code not permitted."

 

You set the address on the 6270 to 1 (which you have already done), then you go into the system programming with the conventional keypad and activate the address in section *189 by entering 1 0.

 

Thanks MrRon. In *189 I select 1 and then the 189 in the lower right hand changes to 00. I then Select 0 and nothing happens. I then select 00 and I get the confirmation double chime and then it says keypad addr.17 and has a 190 in the lower right hand. If I *99 at this point, the 6270 still responds with a "panel response: installer code not permitted" error. What am I doing wrong?

 

Actually that's correct, the newest versions of the V-20p do allow 4 AUI devices so the *189 entry is *189 1 0 0 0 to activate the address. It is normal for the system to jump to the next programming location once entered.

According to the 6270 manual on the bottom of page 1-2 on my copy, when it is displaying ECP error you have to enter 4140 when it asks for a code in order to get the keypad to reset and pick up the address.

Otherwise, try powering down the 6270, then restarting it (disconnect the black wire from the power harness for a minute or so).

Remembrer these things are low grade computers, sometimes you have to reboot.

 

I tried resetting the pad by removing the black wire for a minute as you suggested, however I am still unable to add a user and continue to get a "panel response! installer code not permitted" error. The pad does not display an ECP error, if by that you mean the words ECP appear on the screen. Also, after it displays this error it does not prompt for a code. I have gone into the Central Station screen and verified that the address is set to 1. I am at a loss. Have you ever seen this before?

 

If you are trying to add a user codes beyond the master code, you have to use the _master_ code, not the installer code. If you haven't changed the master code, it's still 1234.

You kinda jumble up this issue with the actual keypad enrollment.

Slow down and read through both the panel instructions and the 6270 instructions a little more carefully. The 6270 instructions are a bit vague because it is accommodating a dozen or so panel models

 

You are right MrRon. I tried using the master code and it was successful. I have tried taking on too large of an install in too short a time. I have a baby on the way any minute now and was trying to finish before he was born as I know I won't have much time afterwards.

 

Alright, this is my current situation.

Black Wires connected to #4
Red Wires Connected to #5
Green Wires to #6
Yellow to #7

I have three things connected right now.

The RF Receiver
The 6128
The 6270

The provider shipped me a used 6128 to help me with the installation
The LCD screen doesnt display anything and the Armed and Ready Lights are lit.

I entered in the 6128

*189 and then 1

put the 6270 to ecp address 1, and same thing.... ECP error

Any ideas?

thanks a lot for you time guys

Ale

 

Alright, this is my current situation.

Black Wires connected to #4
Red Wires Connected to #5
Green Wires to #6
Yellow to #7

I have three things connected right now.

The RF Receiver
The 6128
The 6270

The provider shipped me a used 6128 to help me with the installation
The LCD screen doesnt display anything and the Armed and Ready Lights are lit.

I entered in the 6128

*189 and then 1

put the 6270 to ecp address 1, and same thing.... ECP error

Any ideas?

thanks a lot for you time guys

Ale

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Continuation....

I found out that i have to give it an address, so i did and the lcd came on

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Alright, i guess i've done it! i didnt know i had to press # and * at the same time to enter program mode, now everything seems to be fine. At least i dont get ECP Error anymore...
Now when i unplug and plug the system the 6270 says Panel Busy: another AUI.
Then the 6128 beeps three times.
Then the 6270 restarts and comunicates fine and receives the info.
But when i go to security it says "NOT READY FAULT"

Right now i have no sensors connected, only the RF, the 20P, the two keypads and the alarm. And i connected the chime
I dont think im gonna figure this one out

btw the 6128 says not ready as well and says "AC" "CHIME"

 

Alright, the problem was that the zones were not there so those were the faults, i bypassed them and not is ready to arm! wooohooo

Thanks for being there for me! lol

 

now grab a few beers, and enjoy your hard work. Alarm programming can be frustrating, I know. Good job!

 

Not so soon...
I've been trying to get the sensors working and im having problems... again
to get in program mode i have to press #&* at the same time during the first 50 seconds, tha'ts very complicated... and i dont understand how to get into program mode without disconecting everything.
The other problem is that while in program mode y enter *56 and nothing happens.
And the other one is... can i use this touchscreen to do al the programing and return the old keypad?

thanks !

alex

 

Have you tried getting into programming using the installer code?

It believe the code should be 4112

So, instead of power down and back up, just enter 4112-8-0

and you should be in programming.

 

It doesnt work,

But still, supose i deal with the disconection of power to enter programming mode... why isnt the system accepting any commands?

And shouldnt i be able to do the programming from the 6270?

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I entered programming mode by pressing #&* at the startup
but i dont seem to get any reaction with the commands,,,,
the 6270 says "Panel Busy Programming"
and the 6128 doesnt react to any of the commands
i enter *99 and doesnt exit the programming mode! (

 

Try entering program by entering:

4111 8 0

You can program with the 6270 but it is not recommended for many reasons. This keypad will lag horribly and keystrokes are easily missed.

 

You can retrieve installer code by powering down, then powering up and hitting the * & #.

Once in programming, hit #20

This will then read back the installer code 1 digit at a time

Once you have the installer code, you can just enter programming using that instead of thepower down feature.

 

Alright, i solved the problem with your instructions, the code is 6321

and i can get in programming mode...

but then i put *56 and nothing happens.... and now i put *99 to get out of prog mode and doesnt work either

thank you guys!

PS: Anybody know why the 6270 says the another AUI msg?

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Funny thing, if right after i enter programming mode i enter *99 it get out of it
but if i put *56 first, the rest doesnt work

 

Alright, aparently from the 6270 i can program
question, how do i know in with list a zone is?
bc my pannel came with old zones configured that are giving me fault and i want to delete

Or a more specific question, is there an easy way to delete a zone or all zones?

 

Never mind, i figured it out! you people probably hate me by now right? im sorry!!!

 

Don't apologize!

This is why this forum is here.

I've had frustrating incidents with my panel as well. One time I was just trying to add a wireless sensor and somehow I defaulted the whole panel. Arg! I had to reprogram everything back in.

 

Here i am again, sad and lonely...

Everything was going fine with the installation
I had up and running 2 motion sensors.
2 window/door sensors
and two glass break sensors.

after i configure the 3rd one, everything restarts normally and now my 6270 says
wireless setup error.

I removed the batteries of the glass break, same thing...

and when i want to do anything it says pannel busy...

any ideas? thanks!

 

Most likely you have the wrong loop learned in or a duplicate serial number. Just go back into the programming, look at what you did and either correct it, or just delete the device and try it again. You don't need to default the whole panel for this, the instruction are kinda buried in the *56 instructions.

 

But it doesnt let me, i've been doing the programming on the 6270 bc the regular keypad displays very little info on the screen, almost none.
But the 6270 says panel busy all the time!

 

Power down and re-start. Again, you are describing indications and behaviors that if I could see them, I could spot where you got stuck. As it is, I am flying blind.

What you may need to do is _write down_ your keystrokes as you do things. That way if something goes wrong, it's easier to figure out where you made a wrong turn.

 

I've done that too and after restarting it goes back to the same thing
the regular keypad let's me do keystrokes but doesnt display anything else than numbers on the screen while in programming mode... and 6270 doesnt let me do anything
I guess i'll have to default the system. Or is there any other thing i can do?

thanks a lot

alex

PS: thanks a lot for your time, if you need any more info just tell me and i'll do my best to provide it. thanks again