Vista 20-P and Auto-Dialer Issue

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Old 12-21-13, 04:37 PM
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Vista 20-P and Auto-Dialer Issue

I have never installed an alarm system, but I’m close to being complete with my first (and maybe last) attempt. I have installed a Vista 20-P and the alarm system is performing as it should. What I am having a problem with is the integration of an auto-dialer (USP AD-2000).

My intention was to have the auto-dialer call and inform which of four types of breaches had occurred
1) Front Door
2) Back Door
3) Glass Breakage
4) Motion Detection

I planned to accomplish this by incorporating a Honeywell 4204 relay module (4 relays) into the system. Here is how I have set it up:

I programmed the relay through *79 for four outputs. Then I set up the output functions through *80 with each relay activated by “Zone Type” with:
Relay #1 as type “01 Ent/Exit #1” for the front door
Relay #2 as type “02 Ent/Exit #2” for the back door
Relay #3 as type “03 Perimeter” for the glass break
Relay #4 as type “04 Interior Follower” for motion detectors

I set each of these to have an Output Action of “5 Duration 1” with 90 seconds specified through *177.

Right now the system performs as I wanted, when the alarm goes off the auto-dialer calls and informs me with a pre-recorded message which zone type was breached.

Here is my problem; the auto-dialer is calling even without the system being armed and being tripped. The relays are opening when there is motion detected or a door is opened ... even when the alarm is not armed.

I have not been able to figure out how to make the relay module trip ONLY when the alarm system is armed and has been tripped.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks / Dan
 
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Old 12-21-13, 08:35 PM
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Have never set up something more than just the pager option to call and not sure what programming you have done but, did you set up anything in field 80? It seems to me there is a field there where you set the relay to trip on alarm rather than just a fault -- though it may, or may not, do what you want it to do.

Good luck with it and report back on what works and what doesn't so others/I can learn. If you can, report on the auto-dialer you used.
 
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Old 12-22-13, 10:00 AM
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Instead of setting it by zone type, set it by zone list. That will give you the option of having it activate only on alarms. You will have to put the zones in lists using the *81 function.
 
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Old 12-22-13, 06:55 PM
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Thanks for the advice! I just re-read the instructions for *80 and now see the option available for an "alarm" event to activate the output ... IF the "zone list" is used. THANK YOU for pointing this out!

I will attack this programming change sometime over the next day or two and let you know the outcome, but I think this is the "trick" I've been looking for. I will also try to post a concise list of the programming (if it works) so that others can use it in the future.
 
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Old 12-23-13, 12:50 PM
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Thanks for the help! The system is working exactly like I wanted. Below is a description of how I programmed the relay to work the auto-dialer for me.

The equipment I used includes a Vista 20-P alarm panel, USP AD-2000 auto-dialer, and a Honeywell 4204 relay module. This system is installed in a small office space with five zones which include:
1) front door – zone type 01 “Ent/Exit #1”
2) back door – zone type 02 “Ent/Exit #2”
3) glass break – zone type 03 “Perimeter”
4) front motion – zone type 04 “Interior Follower”
5) back motion – zone type 04 “Interior Follower”

The installation of one key pad and one 4204 relay module were straightforward following instructions as described in the Vista 20-P manual.

Programming for the setup of the 4204 relay module was as follows:
Enter: *79
Display: ENTER OUTPUT NO.
Enter: 01 (repeat below for outputs 02, 03, and 04)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: OUTPUT TYPE
Enter: 1 (for the 4204 relay)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: MODULE ADDR
Enter: 12 (only have one 4204 relay)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: REL POSITION
Enter: 01 (relay #1 of 4)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: ENTER OUTPUT NO.
(Starting over with new cycle of entries for relay/output #2)
Enter: 02 (for output 02)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: OUTPUT TYPE
Enter: 1 (for the 4204 relay)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: MODULE ADDR
Enter: 12 (only have one 4204 relay)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: REL POSITION
Enter: 02 (relay #2 of 4)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: ENTER OUTPUT NO.
(repeat with new entries for relays #3 and #4)
(when finished, enter 00 to quit)

Programming Zone Lists
I used zone list numbers 1, 2, 6, and 7 which are designated for “general purpose”
Enter: *81
Display: ENTER ZONE LIST
Enter: 01 (repeat below for zone lists #2, #6, and #7)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: 01 ENTER ZONE NUM
Enter: 01* (for front door zone)
Enter: 00 (to continue)
Display: 01 DEL ZN LIST?
Enter: 0
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: 01 DELETE ZONE?
Enter: 0
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: ENTER ZONE LIST
(Starting over with new cycle of entries for zone list #2)
Enter: 02 (for zone list #2)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: 02 ENTER ZONE NUM
Enter: 02* (for back door zone)
Enter: 00 (to continue)
Display: 02 DEL ZN LIST?
Enter: 0
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: 02 DELETE ZONE?
Enter: 0
Enter: * (to continue)
(Repeat above steps as appropriate for zone list #6)
(below are entries for zone list #7 which includes two zones)
Display: ENTER ZONE LIST
Enter: 07 (zone list #7)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: 07 ENTER ZONE NUM
Enter: 04* (front motion zone)
Enter: 05* (back motion zone)
Enter: 00 (to continue)
Display: 07 DEL ZN LIST?
Enter: 0
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: 07 DELETE ZONE?
Enter: 0
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: ENTER ZONE LIST
Enter: 00 (to quit)

Programming Output Functions
Enter: *80
Display: OUTPUT FUNCT #
Enter: 01
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: (Summary Screen with A / E / P / Trig values … see manual)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: 01 ACTIVATED BY:
Enter: 1 (option to activate by zone list)
Display: 01 ZN LIST
Enter: 01 (zone list #1)
Display: 01 ENTER EVENT
Enter: 1 (for option to choose “alarm” event)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: 01 OUTPUT ACTION
Enter: 5 (for Duration 1 – 90 seconds that I specified in *177)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: ENTER OUTPUT NO.
Enter: 01 (for relay #1 of 4)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: (Summary Screen with A / E / P / Trig values … see manual)
Enter: * (to continue)
Display: OUTPUT FUNCT #
(Repeat above steps as appropriate for output functions to relays #2, #3, and #4)
(when finished, enter 00 to quit)
 
 

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