replacing DSC 9047 with wired keypad and keep existing wireless sensors


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Old 02-10-16, 01:55 PM
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replacing DSC 9047 with wired keypad and keep existing wireless sensors

There is currently a self contained DSC 9047 keypad installed at my parents place. I ordered an internet module without doing too much research on wiring for the 9047, and now i find out that it is a self contained all wireless unit and doesn't have a control panel where the keypad is wired to.

So, now the only option I believe I have is to replace the keypad and add a control panel. Since this is a currently working system, i'd like to use the existing wireless sensors so the new system would need to support the wired keypad, and the add on internet module (that connects to the keypad contact and acts as an additional keypad -- different address)
 
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The 9047 uses the same transmitters as the standard 400mhz DSC power series sytems, so the swap just requires getting a new control and keypad(s). Of course, you have to get the required keypad, siren and power wires in place, as well.

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could i reuse the existing wires of the 9047? Since I'd be taking that keypad out anyway..
 
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The "keypad" is the entire system. At most you would have siren and power wiring. If you are lucky, the exiting system backs up to a closet...
 
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yep, it sure does, thanks. i'll do some research before ordering the parts
 
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Old 02-12-16, 07:40 AM
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i have a question, the default 1832 panel shows 8 wired zones. Do i need to buy a wireless expander, or can 8 of the zones be programmed as wireless zones without having to buy an expander?

Also, looks like in order to program the wireless zones with current sensors, i have to enter the serial numbers. Is there an easy way to get the serial numbers from the current keypad (9047) display screen? I assume some of the serial numbers are on sensors that may not be easily visible since it's already installed...
 
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You can set the 8 hardwired zones as wireless ones, if you so choose. It's a better idea to simply dummy off those zones, and start your wireless at zone 9. That way, should you want or need to use that capacity, it's still available. You do need a wireless receiver. I recommend going with the RF model keypad (two birds with one stone).
 
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Okay, so looks like i need the following
1. Control Panel 1832
2. Battery
3. DSC RFK5501 (64 zone keypad w/built in wireless receiver) is this an alphanumeric keypad?

the current 9047 is installed on the opposite site of a closet, so i can pull the wires in and use that, and just extend wiring from the panel to the keypad
 
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The RFK-5501 is an "icon" keypad (essentially, a LCD version of the LED keypad). If you want an Alpha keypad you want the RFK-5500.

The 5501 keypad works fine as a programming keypad; but isn't as easy to use for a novice.
 
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can i view the serial numbers of the wireless sensors from the current keypad? looks like i'll need the SN's to program on the new keypad.
 
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Yes, you can view the programmed serial numbers in programming location 804:

http://cms.dsc.com/download.php?t=1&id=13131
 
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thanks for the link of the manual Ron. I have 2 issues.. one is that the system is currently monitored by ADT and I don't think my dad knows the IC. I'll have to ask. and even then, because it is an active system, i'm not sure how to get the serials on the active system.. perhaps put it in test mode?

the second issue is that, if i don't have the IC then how do i get the SN's? I looked at the contacts yesterday, but they're just plain white contacts all around with no serial numbers in sight.

His system is setup with 3 motion sensors and 2 contacts (all wireless) The contacts look like this: http://tennesseealarmstore.com/images/EVDW4975.JPG

and the motion sensors are DSC WS4904P
 
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The most typical ADT installer code can be found by websearching using the phrase "ADT Installer code" (they complain if we post it on this forum); so it's generally easy to find. Trust me; they won't give it to you...

Also, with DSC contacts, there's going to be a label inside the battery compartment that has the serial number on it.
 
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hey Ron, how about getting it off the keypad on an active monitoring account. Will i need to get them to put the alarm in test mode, or can i view it once i find the right IC?

thanks again for your help
 
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Doesn't hurt to put the account on test while you are tinkering, just in case you slip up and trip a panic. Otherwise, they don't get any signals when you go into programming mode.
 
 

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