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Would anyone know what this siding is, and can I buy any and where. I have no idea and a handyman fixed a hole and it looks rally bad. Sorry the pic shows vertical but in real life it is horizontal. Ant help would be appreciated.
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I've painted a lot of houses but don't remember any siding with that profile. Even siding with the same profile tends to change a little over the years. How old is the house/siding? A pic of the area needing repair might help us come up with alternative suggestions.
I've painted a lot of houses but don't remember any siding with that profile. Even siding with the same profile tends to change a little over the years. How old is the house/siding? A pic of the area needing repair might help us come up with alternative suggestions.
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It's one of two different types, Car siding or Shiplap.
Any real lumber yard, (not a box store) should be able to help you out.
Interesting picture, the longer you look at it the pattern looks like it changes from the top to the bottom of the wall.
I know this is not the exact one you have but here's an example.
https://www.menards.com/main/buildin...4443100877.htm
You would likely do more damage than good trying to replace a whole piece, so a picture of the area your trying to fix is a good idea.
Any real lumber yard, (not a box store) should be able to help you out.
Interesting picture, the longer you look at it the pattern looks like it changes from the top to the bottom of the wall.
I know this is not the exact one you have but here's an example.
https://www.menards.com/main/buildin...4443100877.htm
You would likely do more damage than good trying to replace a whole piece, so a picture of the area your trying to fix is a good idea.
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Is that all there is to the repair area ?
If so, I would consider spending the time to locate someone with the appropriate wood- working tools (jigs, saws, shapers) to make up a few dozen feet of that original siding so that you can do this repair and have some stock on hand to do future repairs.
Did your handyman retain the pieces that he removed so that you already have a template that could be taken around to various woodworker shops ?
If so, I would consider spending the time to locate someone with the appropriate wood- working tools (jigs, saws, shapers) to make up a few dozen feet of that original siding so that you can do this repair and have some stock on hand to do future repairs.
Did your handyman retain the pieces that he removed so that you already have a template that could be taken around to various woodworker shops ?
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Mostly what I see with the rest of the old siding is where there are too many coats of failing paint that need to be removed.
Have you checked any of the places that sell salvaged building materials? I do believe custom milling is your best bet since your siding is 140 yrs old.
Have you checked any of the places that sell salvaged building materials? I do believe custom milling is your best bet since your siding is 140 yrs old.
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Yes, you will need to get that custom milled. Might as well get more than you need and replace the ones that don't match.
You would need to cut off a small cross section and take it in so that they can make something identical.
You would need to cut off a small cross section and take it in so that they can make something identical.
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If there was a location in your profile someone may be able to suggest someplace local that may be able to help.
Siding that old was made at a local planing mill with shaper blades most often made on site.
In VA where I am there's at least three places I can go to that often stock moulding, railing and siding to match 100 plus year old houses.
If they do not stock it, if I bring a sample they have a laser machine that can make a cutter in a few min.
If it was my home I'd just be removing and replacing all of it with new matching siding instead of having to deal with all that lead paint removal.
http://portsmouthlumber.com/itemDetails.php?itemId=6524
Siding that old was made at a local planing mill with shaper blades most often made on site.
In VA where I am there's at least three places I can go to that often stock moulding, railing and siding to match 100 plus year old houses.
If they do not stock it, if I bring a sample they have a laser machine that can make a cutter in a few min.
If it was my home I'd just be removing and replacing all of it with new matching siding instead of having to deal with all that lead paint removal.
http://portsmouthlumber.com/itemDetails.php?itemId=6524
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Thanks for all the suggestions, I will try a local woodworker first. The suggestion on replacing it all would be quite the cost being 3 stories and over 5000 square ft. But thank you all again.
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Let's look at the bigger picture.
What I'm seeing in those pictures is the paint is not even sticking to the wall.
Last time I had to deal with this I got Sherwin Williams involved.
They were nice enough to first have one of the store employees stop by on the way home, then the store manager came out.
After all there suggestions failed they even sent out the distric rep. that was handed a sample piece to send in to the factory for testing.
We had tried scraping off all the loose paint, pressure washing, even sanding with 40 grit (which barely scratched the surface) sandpaper to give it some tooth for the paint to hang onto, four different primers, only painting in the middle of the day on the shady side of the house, and still nothing would stick.
The test came back and what they came up with is the wood was what they called mill hardened.
We replaced the all the siding and it still looks brand new to this day about 8 years later.
Get a price on stripping all that old paint off and repainting again, then factor in the possibilty of having to go through all this over and over again.
What I'm seeing in those pictures is the paint is not even sticking to the wall.
Last time I had to deal with this I got Sherwin Williams involved.
They were nice enough to first have one of the store employees stop by on the way home, then the store manager came out.
After all there suggestions failed they even sent out the distric rep. that was handed a sample piece to send in to the factory for testing.
We had tried scraping off all the loose paint, pressure washing, even sanding with 40 grit (which barely scratched the surface) sandpaper to give it some tooth for the paint to hang onto, four different primers, only painting in the middle of the day on the shady side of the house, and still nothing would stick.
The test came back and what they came up with is the wood was what they called mill hardened.
We replaced the all the siding and it still looks brand new to this day about 8 years later.
Get a price on stripping all that old paint off and repainting again, then factor in the possibilty of having to go through all this over and over again.
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To me it looks like too much paint on the siding with the underlying coats failing. It looks like it should scrape fairly easy. It's doubtful new paint and repaints will get that bad again in your lifetime. Still the prep/labor associated with repainting is why many install vinyl siding.