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Old 02-03-19, 09:29 AM
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Man-Door Cover

Hi there,

im installing 2 man-door covers on the exterior of my shop and I have what Iím sure is a very basic question for this forum.

The instructions with the product really only talk about installation to a concrete/brick wall and I have vinyl siding.
So, my question is, when drilling the holes for the two supports, do I just allow the back of the supports to rest on the raised sections of the siding and caulk the holes accordingly? Do I need to mount the supports to a wood base that mounts to the siding? The wood base option would leave a gap between the back of the cover and the wall, potentially allowing water to drip down.

Any thoughts and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Keep in mind that you've only told us "man door cover". Do you know the brand or can you provide a link so we can see what you are installing? Can you post some pictures of where you are installing the door? Here are instructions for posting pictures.
 
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@Pilot Dane,

Thanks for the reply. Point taken about the missing photos. I donít seem to get the ďGo AdvancedĒ button showing up below my text window.

Hereís a link to the exact product from Costco:
https://www.costco.ca/Palram-Neo-135...100404097.html
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if I can find the ďGo AdvancedĒ icon, Iíll post a photo of my exterior shop wall, too. Any tips on that front?
 

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I'm not a siding guy but I wouldn't think you'd want to secure that awning thru the vinyl siding. Vinyl needs to be loose enough to expand/contract with temp changes.
Are you using a PC or phone to access this site?
 
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What is behind your vinyl siding ?
Expansion is one problem but you don't want to flatten the siding behind the brackets. Typically you would use spacers between that cover and the actual wall. That would require drilling holes thru the vinyl the size of the spacers.

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@marksr, excellent point about the temp. expansion/contraction of the vinyl siding. I do know that the siding nails are not hammered tight to the siding when installing to allow for movement so that makes sense.
Iím using a phone for this thread so thatís probably why I do t see all the forum functions.
 
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See if you have the ability to select "desktop site" in your phone.
 
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Hereís a photo of the actual exterior of my shop where the door cover is going. Hopefully this ďcopy/pasteĒ workaround attempt works.

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No.... that won't work. That's the location of the picture in YOUR browser.
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@PJMax... okay, Iím in ďfull siteĒ mode now, lol!
Okay, here goes...
 
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@PJmax, I like the spacer solution. What material are the spacers made from?
So, for installation, Iíd drill a slightly bigger hole that the space, install the cover, then caulk around the spacers?

Almost forgot... the substrate under the vinyl siding is 60-min. tar paper, over plywood, over wood 2X6 framing.

Thanks for the time! 🙂
 
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Good job. Yes.... the spacers in the picture are plastic. You can also use metal ones. You can also cut short pieces of EMT or pipe and use that.
 
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IMO how you install it would depend on whether or not you mind water running down the wall and dripping in behind the awning.
 
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@XSleeper,
Yeah, Iíve been pondering that myself. Iíll be racking this in a couple of days, so, Iíll know more when I get up on the ladder and can dry-fit things and see whatís what.
The saving grace may be the fact that just out-of-frame, above the door, is the 2í eves/gutter line. The genesis for this project was that sometimes I get driving rain hitting the base of the door frame and these man-door covers will protect that angle, keeping the splash-back, off the step, further from the base of the door.
Iíll check back in after I lay things out and hopefully get them installed.
 
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I wonder if you could unzip one strip vinyl at the top? Then maybe fasten the awning to the sheathing and add a drip cap before replacing the vinyl except for cut outs as needed.
 

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