Vinyl replacement for 8' Cedar panels?
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Vinyl replacement for 8' Cedar panels?
Hi, I've been looking online, and so far have been frustrated with no results. My Cedar picket fence is shot, and would like to replace them with no maintainence Vinyl.Thing is all I can find are panels that have the square post on them and my pressure treated posts are fine, so why go through all the work and money of replacement? What I'm looking for are 8' Vinyl panels, exactly like the Cedar ones you would find in the Building Supply stores. If anyone had any ideas where to look I would appreciate it.Bet my bottom dollar someone makes them somewhere. Thanks Rick Davis
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The box stores usually have a display of them outside. They have prebuilt panels as well as ready to build kits. Chose the ones that are appropriate to your situation.
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rick2542,
You can also look in the Yellow Pages and find a vinyl fence mfgr. in your area. They'll make EXACTLY the panels that you need them to, so that they will fit between each of the existing posts. I'm betting that there are some differences in your post spacings.
You can also look in the Yellow Pages and find a vinyl fence mfgr. in your area. They'll make EXACTLY the panels that you need them to, so that they will fit between each of the existing posts. I'm betting that there are some differences in your post spacings.
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Thanks Czizzi and Lefty!
I went to one of the mega stores and the guy there was clueless about those panels.I'll keep looking and I'm sure I'll find them now I know they're made. I think I got lucky on the fence post spacing because within an inch they're all the same! Thanks again guys!
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You won't be able to use the post because the vinyl fence rails slide into the vinyl posts, so if you oversleeve the wood posts the rails will not be able to fit. Your going to have to pull the posts if you are lucky you might be able to reuse the holes.
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vinyl replacement for 8' cedar panels
I have the exact same circumstance. I have 6x6 pressure treated posts in 30 inches of concrete with 6" of gravel beneath them. While the posts are still like new the cedar rails and pickets between them are shot. I have 8' between the posts give or take 1/2 inch. I want to place a vinyl sleeve and cap over the posts and install a 8' vinyl picket panel to replace the cedar. On the internet I have found 8' vinyl panels; I have found hardware for installing panels; I have found caps; I have not found sleeves but did find wrap around and cladding. The problem is all of the pieces come from different suppliers and I don't have a clue as to whether or not it will all fit together. I also don't know about the quality. What I do know is that I am -not- going to pull those 25 posts. I am real curious as to whether or not you come up with a solution. I will eventually work it out but right now I am going crazy searching the internet. My next step is to go to the phone. KDP1939
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rick2542,
Using rails and pickets, EMH1279 is right. Even using a 5" post sleeve wouldn't allow enough room for the rails to be locked into the post sleeves. But if you went to a privacy panel, rather than the pickets, then it could be done.
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Your's get worse because your posts are 6X6. They simply don't make a vinyl post that will fit over it. Even if they did, you wouldn't have space inside the sleeve to lock the rails into it.
Using rails and pickets, EMH1279 is right. Even using a 5" post sleeve wouldn't allow enough room for the rails to be locked into the post sleeves. But if you went to a privacy panel, rather than the pickets, then it could be done.
KDP1939,
Your's get worse because your posts are 6X6. They simply don't make a vinyl post that will fit over it. Even if they did, you wouldn't have space inside the sleeve to lock the rails into it.
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Hi, to answer your question as to what I came up with I got tired of pulling my hair out trying to find replacement vinyl panels and instead just three wood rails across to make a "Horse Fence". Used Olympic Deck and Fence Stain which came highly recced.There was no way I was going to pull those posts, they were fine,and actually I'm quite happy with the results.It's not Vinyl, but all I have to do is every few years run a roller down it.And it was a fraction of the cost.
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Thanks Rick and Lefty,
I might end up doing something similar. I may also have a solution so far as vinyl goes but it is real pricey. usavinyl.com has porch railings that are exactly 8' without the post. The 8' railing panel with 3' pickets is about $150 each. The railings attach to the posts with brackets and both railings are reinforced with an aluminum "I" beam. USavinyl also has 6" post caps but not the 6" sleeve. Another company sells a 6" wrap but that is expensive too. It looks like the 8' panel, the wrap, the cap and the brackets comes to about $200 per section. Maybe I can just paint the posts. I wrote to them to see if they have a less expensive solution. KDP1939
I might end up doing something similar. I may also have a solution so far as vinyl goes but it is real pricey. usavinyl.com has porch railings that are exactly 8' without the post. The 8' railing panel with 3' pickets is about $150 each. The railings attach to the posts with brackets and both railings are reinforced with an aluminum "I" beam. USavinyl also has 6" post caps but not the 6" sleeve. Another company sells a 6" wrap but that is expensive too. It looks like the 8' panel, the wrap, the cap and the brackets comes to about $200 per section. Maybe I can just paint the posts. I wrote to them to see if they have a less expensive solution. KDP1939
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KDP1939,
$150 for an 8' rail kit is actually a fairly low price. The Kroy and Presidio kits that I use are about $200 each. Is that aluminum extrusion in the top or the bottom rail? Presidio uses one in the top of a T-rail, and Kroy has an "H" in both the top and the bottom.
But, if you look in the Yellow Pages under 'Fence', you may find a local vinyl fabricator who can build essentially the same section and provide you with the end brackets for a bit less. The "T" top rail will work fine, but going to a 2" X 3-1/2" top rail (same thing that the bottom rail is) would cost less.
$150 for an 8' rail kit is actually a fairly low price. The Kroy and Presidio kits that I use are about $200 each. Is that aluminum extrusion in the top or the bottom rail? Presidio uses one in the top of a T-rail, and Kroy has an "H" in both the top and the bottom.
But, if you look in the Yellow Pages under 'Fence', you may find a local vinyl fabricator who can build essentially the same section and provide you with the end brackets for a bit less. The "T" top rail will work fine, but going to a 2" X 3-1/2" top rail (same thing that the bottom rail is) would cost less.
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Thanks Lefty, I'm learning something here.
The rail kit I was looking at has aluminum extrusions in both rails with the top rail being a T rail. However, I was informed that they have the same kit only with both rails being 2" by 3.5" with an H extrusion in both rails and the price for this 96inch panel is $118. I am also going to check out the Kroy and Presidio kits and maybe see if there is a local vinyl fabricator.
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The rail kit I was looking at has aluminum extrusions in both rails with the top rail being a T rail. However, I was informed that they have the same kit only with both rails being 2" by 3.5" with an H extrusion in both rails and the price for this 96inch panel is $118. I am also going to check out the Kroy and Presidio kits and maybe see if there is a local vinyl fabricator.
KDP1939
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KDP1939,
Be careful buying less expensive vinyl. Not all vinyl is created equal. Wall thickness and the make up of the vinyl itself are what set the cheap guys apsrt.
This is horse county, and there are A LOT of 3 rail and 4 rail vinyl fences around here to keep those horses in. I've had several customers (deck customers for me) tell me that their horses can break rails on some brands and not on others. And one of those customers raises MINIATURE horses!!
Be careful buying less expensive vinyl. Not all vinyl is created equal. Wall thickness and the make up of the vinyl itself are what set the cheap guys apsrt.
This is horse county, and there are A LOT of 3 rail and 4 rail vinyl fences around here to keep those horses in. I've had several customers (deck customers for me) tell me that their horses can break rails on some brands and not on others. And one of those customers raises MINIATURE horses!!