Fully Automatic Handgun????


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Old 05-13-03, 09:57 AM
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Exclamation Fully Automatic Handgun????

I have a kid(he happens to be foreign not that i have a problem with it) in my school who says he owns a fully auto 9mm?!?! I told him no way there is no chance that he owns a fully auto hand gun. It was to my understanding that there are guns with three round burst shots but not fully auto, and that mostly government guards have them. Please answer soon.

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Old 05-13-03, 02:28 PM
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Smile Full auto Handgun.

Hi, Phonado

I have fired the 1911 45 acp in full auto. It was empty before I could let go the trigger, a silly rich mans toy, with NO practical Military or Law Enforcement use.

There are companies who will make you a full auto blow gun, as long as you have a Class III License.

FYI: The people I know with Class III weapons, are very careful to keep it quiet.

For more information, on all the restrictions & Background checks + all the weapons covered. Find a Federal search site, & look for the BATFs web site.


Be Careful.
 
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Old 12-17-05, 08:56 AM
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to se a full auto glock goto military.com look in the shock&awe videos
 
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Old 12-19-05, 08:57 AM
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a skilled owner can make most any "auto" fire in full auto. this behavior however is not worth the wrath of the atf. that crap will get you 10 years in the bighouse.
 
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Old 12-22-05, 02:00 PM
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Most fully automatic arms are designed to operate with an open bolt and nothing in the chamber. The residual heat in the barrel after firing will "cook off" a live chambered round. That's another reason a full auto pistol is not very practical.
If your friend is not telling tall tales, his 9 mm is most likely malfunctioning. Better have a gunsmith look at it before someone gets hurt.
 
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Old 12-25-05, 09:12 PM
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Aside from your friend's dubious claim, full-auto handguns are out there.

For starters, things like the UZI pistol, and other submachine guns are legally handguns, but we won't go there.

The Glock 18 is a full-auto Glock 17.
The Beretta 93R is a full-auto (3-shot burst only) similar to the Beretta 92, and was used by Robocop in the movie, though it had things added to it to make it look more futuristic. It was also in Broken Arrow and other films.

I've also seen a 9mm Tokarev go full-auto on a firing range when it malfunctioned.
 
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Old 12-28-05, 05:06 PM
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first of all no KID has any 9mm machine gun they are registered NFA firearms, you must be 21 ans have all the necessary paperwork from the BATF, second there are not too many fully auto pistols on the market today, have him show it to you or explain exactly what he has or he is lying about , no big deal as all kids will tell tale about that, its the movie syndrome
 
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Right on. Anytime you hear things like this, look up the correct info by taking a look at federal law on the subject.

Currently, all fully automatic firearms are regulated by the federal NFA. After the 1986 FOPA this also put another nail in the coffin of full-autos in that anything made after May 1986 was banned for private possession.

Now, a Glock 18 is indeed a full auto pistol. If you have ever fired a full auto pistol, you know that they are not exactly a great weapon. They are primarily purchased for the "cool" factor or to try and show off. Firing even a 9mm round at a rate of 1 shot per second takes practice; can you imagine trying to control a pistol firing at a rate of 18-20 rounds per second? Get real.

It is not possible for anyone in the U.S. to be in full legal private possession of a Glock 18. Why? The G18 was not manufactured prior to May 1986, and on top of that, even if it was, all Glocks are made in Austria, not the U.S., thus they are banned by the 1968 GCA. Now, whether or not someone manufactured a sear or full-auto conversion device AND registered it prior to May 1986 is unknown, but entirely possible.
 
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Old 01-23-06, 02:37 PM
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There are many glock 18's in the states, the loophole is for FFL dealers that work with law enforcement to use as demo's. I have fired the dreaded Glock 18 and it's not that bad and does indeed have it's place, although it's a very specialized weapon.
The kid at school is most likely someone not familiar with weapons and calls his SEMI-auto pistol an auto pistol, just like most news outlets tend to do.
 
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Old 01-23-06, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbadmoo
There are many glock 18's in the states, the loophole is for FFL dealers that work with law enforcement to use as demo's. I have fired the dreaded Glock 18 and it's not that bad and does indeed have it's place, although it's a very specialized weapon.
The kid at school is most likely someone not familiar with weapons and calls his SEMI-auto pistol an auto pistol, just like most news outlets tend to do.

I would not really call the dealer demos a loophole. The weapons, once they are demo'ed, can be retained in the possession of the dealer indefinitely. That means so long as the dealer is in business, they can retain possession of said weapon. However, remember that the weapon is in possession of the DEALER. It does not mean that the private individual who happens to hold the FFL for the dealer's business does not mean that they can own or possess it. Doing so is indeed a federal felony.
 
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Old 01-23-06, 08:04 PM
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Post dealer samples may or may not be a loophole, depending on your perspective, since most FFL's are indeed individuals. A lifelong friend of mine is a class 2 manufacturer and FFL with an emphasis on Law Enforcement, the main reason he started was so he could have the weapons he wanted, although the paperwork is intensive.
 
 

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