Shotgun types
#1
03-31-11, 04:01 AM
Shotgun types
Hi
I was thinking of purchasing a shotgun and I wanted to ask some questions.
Apparently I found out that there are 3 types of shotguns, single fire ones, repeat-action ones and semi-automatic.
Semi automatic ones come in an only 3-round capacity here I think, whilst the other ones can hold more munition but require reloading the barrel after every shot.
The semi automatic ones seem very interesting but I could not find one that comes without a stock and I would like to have something very portable.
Do you know of any semi-automatic shotguns that come without a stock? Do you think that there are reliability issues with these shotguns? I heard somewhere that they tend to get jammed.
In general for the repeatitive-action ones and the semi-automatic ones, are there any particular points that I should look for for ensuring quality? Like materials, manufacturing standards and parts (e.g. barrel coolers, parts materials, general design)?
Many thanks
I was thinking of purchasing a shotgun and I wanted to ask some questions.
Apparently I found out that there are 3 types of shotguns, single fire ones, repeat-action ones and semi-automatic.
Semi automatic ones come in an only 3-round capacity here I think, whilst the other ones can hold more munition but require reloading the barrel after every shot.
The semi automatic ones seem very interesting but I could not find one that comes without a stock and I would like to have something very portable.
Do you know of any semi-automatic shotguns that come without a stock? Do you think that there are reliability issues with these shotguns? I heard somewhere that they tend to get jammed.
In general for the repeatitive-action ones and the semi-automatic ones, are there any particular points that I should look for for ensuring quality? Like materials, manufacturing standards and parts (e.g. barrel coolers, parts materials, general design)?
Many thanks
#2
03-31-11, 06:50 AM
Member
This thread does not belong in a DIY forum. No one here is going to give you advice on purchasing a firearm to use on another human.
Perhaps you could get better firearm advice from your local police. Visit them and ask them what's the best shotgun to get to shoot someone.
Perhaps you could get better firearm advice from your local police. Visit them and ask them what's the best shotgun to get to shoot someone.
#3
03-31-11, 07:02 AM
I am not planning to shot anyone but I do have some problems with some people right now.
If the thread is unapproriate for this forum then I dont have a problem with it getting deleted.
I am sorry for any concerns that this thread might have caused.
If the thread is unapproriate for this forum then I dont have a problem with it getting deleted.
I am sorry for any concerns that this thread might have caused.
#4
03-31-11, 08:06 AM
Group Moderator
Saiga is the most popular clip fed semi automatic shotgun that I am aware of. I find their design and feel to be more like an AK which I do not like, and their reliability is not stellar so you probably would be limited as to what ammo you could use in it.
Some traditional pump and semi-automatic shotguns have the capacity to hold more than 3 shells. Because most US hunting regulations limit the magazine size while hunting they have plugs installed to reduce their capacity. But yes, 3 is a common capacity for shotgun magazines. The US market for guns is very, very large so our requirements often drive what companies around the world produce.
If you can think of it, it probably exists and that includes shotguns without stocks. Depending on it's configuration it will probably be a class II weapon in the USA which requires a lot of extra paperwork, background checks and money. I have no idea about Greece's regulations.
Some traditional pump and semi-automatic shotguns have the capacity to hold more than 3 shells. Because most US hunting regulations limit the magazine size while hunting they have plugs installed to reduce their capacity. But yes, 3 is a common capacity for shotgun magazines. The US market for guns is very, very large so our requirements often drive what companies around the world produce.
If you can think of it, it probably exists and that includes shotguns without stocks. Depending on it's configuration it will probably be a class II weapon in the USA which requires a lot of extra paperwork, background checks and money. I have no idea about Greece's regulations.
#5
03-31-11, 09:22 AM
Group Moderator
There's a lot of variety in shotguns and you have not even touched the topic of the guage of the shotgun
While a handle can make a shotgun more portable than one with a stock, firing a 12 ga shotgun without a stock can be painful on the hand
I think you should go to a couple stores and see what they have and talk to the people
While a handle can make a shotgun more portable than one with a stock, firing a 12 ga shotgun without a stock can be painful on the hand
I think you should go to a couple stores and see what they have and talk to the people
#6
03-31-11, 10:23 AM
I went to a shop and bought some CS spray so at the moment I am somewhat "covered" but if things get really dodgy I might go over and have a look at these shotguns and munition...
Thanks again
Thanks again
#7
03-31-11, 12:36 PM
Group Moderator
I have read your posting in the other thread. I too am a landlord and occasionally have problem tenants. The last time I spoke with the Sheriffs Department (Police) I was told to expect it to take 20 minutes for help to arrive after they get the call. Our emergency number in the US is 911 and then they call the police, fire department which adds a few more minutes. It is not comforting to know that you must be able to take care of yourself for 20+ minutes before help arrives, assuming you were able to make the phone call.
#8
04-01-11, 12:39 AM
Originally Posted by Pilot Dane
It is not comforting to know that you must be able to take care of yourself for 20+ minutes before help arrives, assuming you were able to make the phone call.
#9
07-04-11, 07:01 AM
Sounds like someone needs a bit more education on firearms before diving in feet first. Design, is one aspect but when you want dependability you need to also consider the make and model. Very similar designs won't necessarily provide the same levels of performance or reliability. You'll generally get what you pay for. Now I didn't see where it was specifically stated this was to "shoot someone" — that seemed to be assumed by one that's apparently anti-gun and wishing to place a negative tone on the whole thing. Staying with that area though, a pump action is very effective in terms of defensive and offensive purposes. The mere sound of the action being operated can be a real eye opener and deterrent.
There's positives and negatives to each design so do the homework first. Buy what suits the need or has a better overall blanketing purpose. Good idea is also to check with whatever local gun clubs/organizations are in your area.
There's positives and negatives to each design so do the homework first. Buy what suits the need or has a better overall blanketing purpose. Good idea is also to check with whatever local gun clubs/organizations are in your area.
#10
07-06-11, 02:18 PM
We have to assume sometimes that a Mossberg 500A with pistol grip isn't going to be used to hunt pheasant 
I agree with the noise of the breaching action. I keep mine hammer down with chamber MT. It has to be racked in order to fire. Only a fool will stick around to see what the noise was.
I agree with the noise of the breaching action. I keep mine hammer down with chamber MT. It has to be racked in order to fire. Only a fool will stick around to see what the noise was.
