Sale of non-CA compliant pistol


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Old 01-23-22, 10:15 AM
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Sale of non-CA compliant pistol

I found an online listing for a Kahr TP9-2 pistol, which states it is not California compliant. From what I've read, as of January 2001 it is illegal to manufacture or import a firearm for sale in California if it has not met certain standards. Question is, is it legal to purchase this firearm from the California based online dealer since I am out of state?
 

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01-24-22, 12:52 PM
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Just a quick note on Dixie's post - the sender does not have to be an FFL, just the receiver.
 
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Just a quick note on Dixie's post - the sender does not have to be an FFL, just the receiver.
 
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Old 01-23-22, 12:57 PM
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It's being sold by an FFL. I guess I'm confused as to how they can even legally possess it if the law says it cannot be manufactured or imported to California for sale.
 
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The listing says it ships from California. Guess it isn't my problem.

Would it be inadvisable to purchase a firearm that didn't meet the CA criteria? Or is the criteria overly strict?
 

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If there is a problem, it is the seller's problem, not yours in buying this through an FFL in your state.
 
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I would think if the pistol is legal in your state you are not prohibited from buying it from a CA seller.

Is the pistol being sold from an FFL or is it a private seller?
 
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That dealer likely has the pistol stored and shipped from a different location outside of California.
 
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It says shipping from California.
 
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There are, likely, two important distinctions-
First the distinction between a "Broker" (I help other people sell their stuff and make a sales commission) and a "Dealer" (I buy and sell from my own stuff, and make capital gains)

Second, I would guess that a Cali FFL might be able to "sell" a firearm that is not physically present in Cali, so I doesn't enter state it is "non-compliant" with?
 
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Old 01-23-22, 03:58 PM
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Info below found here: https://handgunlaw.us/documents/NoHiCapChemSpray.pdf

(d) Any person who may not lawfully possess a large-capacity magazine commencing July 1, 2017 shall, prior to July 1, 2017:
(1) Remove the large-capacity magazine from the state.
(2) Prior to July 1, 2017, sell the large-capacity magazine to a licensed firearms dealer. https://www.handgunlaw.us
(3) Surrender the large-capacity magazine to a law enforcement agency for destruction.

#2 would make sense if they are an FFL selling the item out of the state.

Again, if the pistol is OK to have in your state then I see no reason you cannot buy that firearm no matter where it comes from. (except out of the country of course) As long as you follow all the requirements with transferring possession you should be good to go.

The only item I can see that would not comply with current CA laws is a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds.
 
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I wouldn't worry about it, every regulation in CA is overly strict.
 
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Just a thought.....

If you deal much with a local gun dealer, go to them and ask if they'd buy it & have it shipped from one licensed gun dealer to another, then buy the gun from your local dealer. Of course for a modest fee for the transaction.

Otherwise, just see if the local gun dealer will allow the gun to be shipped to his store to you. If there is anything illegal about this, he'll quickly let you know.
I forgot a pistol in a hotel room once & got about 2 hours back toward home & remembered it. I called my friend back at the hotel & had my friend go to their local gun dealer & ship it to my local gun dealer. Legally, it needed to be shipped to & from a licensed gun dealer through the mail.

Just a couple of thoughts... wont hurt to ask.

In the end though, I am with another poster that, as long as its legal in your state, your good to go.
 
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Thanks for all the input. I purchased the gun and it's in transit to my local FFL.
 
 

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