How much does half a cord weigh?

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Old 08-05-18, 06:30 AM
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How much does half a cord weigh?

I want to buy some firewood but they donít measure it by the cord here (in Argentina). They sell by the weight of by the truckload. The delivery is a significant component of the price but I donít want to repeat the top soil fiasco where I ordered a truck load and it ended un being way too much.

Half a cord is a measurement Iím comfortable with. The wood is a very hard wood (quebracho Colorado- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schinopsis_balansae). For reference the vendor says a truck full weighs approx 28000 kg.
 
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Seasoned or dried wood weighs significantly less than green wood. Maybe you should look at one of their loads before they send it out somewhere.
 
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A "Cord" is a measure of volume, not weight.

If a Cord of wood measures 4' X 4' X 8' (128 Cubic Feet), then a Ĺ Cord should eaqua 64 Cubic Feet . . . . but how much it will weigh will vary greatly with its age and how densely it is stacked.

Mark's idea of looking at someone else's load sounds like a reasonable approach; or measuring the bed of the truck that they use for deliveries.
 
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Thanks. The wood is dried. According to Wikipedia it has a density of 1.15-1.3 (not sure what that means). As for going to see how they load it, Iím afraid thatís not an option. Theyíre In the middle of nowhere and I donít have a car (which is why I order everything delivered.
 
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You had too much top soil with need for the extra.
The extra wood won't go to waste. Stack it up and cover it.
 
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Pj max, I still have to store it somewhere. I know wood weighs more than you'd think, especially hardwood, but 28 tons just sounds like a lot.
 
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Originally Posted by Esand1
". . . the vendor says a truck full weighs approx 28000 kg . . ."
I think your Vendor is including the weight of his truck.
 
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My guess is that either they told you wrong or you heard them wrong.

It's more likely to be 2800 kg or 3 tons per cord. Even that sounds heavy for a 4x4x8' pile. (Or a half cord... 1.5 tons for a 4x4x4' pile)
 
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I'm old US school and need pounds instead of KG so went to the conversion shed for an update.
28,000 kg is just over 30 tons (61,729 lbs)
1 cord or very hard red oak (green) = 5,850 lbs (seasoned) = 5,350 lbs or 9% less.
If the load were 61,729 lbs it would be 11.5 cord.

Now, 11.5 cord is possible but it would need a big truck, but 11 cord is a word of difference from 1/2 cord.

We need to clarify what your needs are.

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https://www.woodbeaver.net/cordwood-weight-2/
 
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"An average seasoned cord of hardwood weighs more than 2 tons!! Unstacked it will take up to 200 cubic feet in space. An 8 ft. pick up truck would have to pile the wood uniformly at 5 feet tall to fit an ustacked cord. The average pick up truck can only haul 1/2 a cord of firewood at a time."

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+does+a+cord+of+oak+weigh&rlz=1C1CHWA_enUS629US629&oq=how+much+does+a+cord+of+&aqs=chrome.3.0j69i57j0l4.23293j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

So, a half cord would be 2000 - 2500 lb.
 
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We do need to have the op clarify what size truckload he is referring to. I used to buy tree length at about 10 cord by weight so it could be a very large truck. But if just a pickup truck then as X stated the weight is not correct.

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Based on the OP's last paragraph where they told him a truck load is 28,000 KG, then per Buds info in post 9, that 28,000 kg converts to over 61,000 lb, I can add some info on this.

Trucks & weight is something I know about. Today's average 18 wheeler truck & dry van weighs about 33,000 lb (about 31,000 - 34,500) empty. Using normal truck registration of 80,000 lb gross, that leaves 47,000 lb net freight weight.

At over 61,000 lb of cargo, that's 14,000 lb over gross weight that an average 18 wheeler can haul. If a cord of wood weighs approx 4200 lb, that's 14.5 cords of wood.

In short, if he were in the US & he is hauling 61,000 lb of fire wood per load, (using a line from Jaws), he's gonna need a bigger truck.
 
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I suspect the op is new to buying and burning wood and doing his best to get on board. Here in Maine we have a lot of people buying and burning wood and in many forms. The old timer I was using for cut and split told me one day he would no longer sell to any of the college elite (he was located near the University of Maine). He would deliver the wood in a dump body truck that he had measured by weight to be a generous 3 cords. But those engineers would spend hours stacking it as tight as they could and complain they didn't get their 4x4x8 times 3. He gave up and just started saying he was sold out. As smart as they were they just couldn't justify a nickle argument from an old woodsman.

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Resisting the nitty-gritty or getting involved in the detail still seems to be a problem for many consumers, and adding the confusion of weight conversions from kilograms to pounds on a commodity that is usually measured by volume makes for a lot of trouble.

We still have a lot of buyers who get hood-winked into buying a Face Cord (4' X 8' X 16") and paying the price of a Full Cord and refuse to complain due to the potential embarrassment.

And the fact that the majority of Americans are mathematically challenged (including Teachers) doesn't bode well for the future.
 
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Outside the box idea: See if he will give you three or four pieces of wood. When you get home weigh each piece. Place one at a time on a pan of water filled to the brim. Measure water when you fill the pan and after you fully submerged the wood in the water to determine actual volume of the wood. Take an average for the three or four pieces of wood to give an estimate of weight per volume. That should give you the approximate weight per volume for one piece. That will give you a rough estimate of pieces of wood per weight and given volume..
 
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Ok I just got off the phone with him he was very nice and helpful. He told me that when stacked neatly 300KG will fit in the trunk of a car. That 1 (metric) ton will occupy about 1.4m3 or 50 cu ft. And that the truck does indeed come with 26 metric tons and that is almost certainly way more than I want.

I think I'll try 1 ton for the first time and see how it goes. Thanks for all the help.
 
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