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10-17-07, 10:34 AM   #1  
How to nail the ceiling to a wall.

I have a 13' ceiling that I am going to drop down to a 8' ceiling. My question is how do I nail the 2x8's to the walls that are already there? The room is 14.5'x14' I am building a back wall to make the room 14.5'x12' so I know I can nail the new ceiling joists to the top of the new wall in the back of the room but I am not for sure on how to nail the ceiling joists to the wall that is already there in the front of the room. I have been told by another person just to take a 2x8 the width of the room and nail it at a 8' hight to the wall that is already there and then nail the ceiling joists into the 2x8 using some brackets. But I am not for sure if that is ok and would that be up to code? Or if there was a different way of doing it. Please help!

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10-17-07, 03:25 PM   #2  
Robert: Welcome to the forums! Nailing support lumber to the existing wall is second best, as I always like to nail wood directly to wood, without the sheetrock in between. However it will work. The only problem I can see you having is a 2x8 won't span 14 feet, so have you make plans for mid span support, either from below or above? What will you be doing with the remaining 2' you are not making into a ceiling. You will lose valuable nailing surface with that wall left out.

 
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10-17-07, 03:41 PM   #3  
Thanks for the input. I plan to run the 2x8s the 12' way so I dont need support in the middle. and what is happening is that I am about to open a recording studio and the room is a old storage area and it has a pull up door in the back of the room and ceiling is 13' so I just want to bring it down to the 8 foot and that will suit my needs. I am not going to do anything with the other 2 feet in the back of the room. I was told that if I made the room 12' I would not need the middle supports so losing the 2 feet will not hurt me. So I am going to run the joists the 12 feet so I dont need the middle support is this ok or do I have to go the 14' direction with the joists? And I will be making a back wall to cut out the 2 feet in the back of the room. So what I will end up with is a room (that is now 14'x14') that is 14' across and 12' deep. with a 8 foot ceiling and a new 8 foot tall 14 foot wide back wall that the joists will be nailed to and the other end will be nailed to the wall that is already there to which I will have to nail a 2x8 and then attach the ceiling joists. So with all that said is it ok for me to do it this way?

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10-17-07, 03:52 PM   #4  
A 2x8 won't span 12 either, so your best alternative is to span the end of the structure and a midpoint with a laminated beam, LVL, which will need good support on the ends, which I think you will have with the 2x8's. Although if you span the middle with LVL, you can cover the entire 14' and not worry about the 12' magic number. Then you can run your 2x8 or 2x6 ceiling joists between the ends and the mid span beam, using joist hangers to keep it in place.

 
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10-17-07, 04:07 PM   #5  
Thanks that sounds great. This realy has clearded things up for me.

 
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10-18-07, 05:10 AM   #6  
I'm looking at these posts and I have to ask myself (and you) "what's wrong with a suspended ceiling?"

Forget the lumber & LVL's - the suspended ceiling would have better sound deadening properties anyway if, as you say, you're going for a recording studio.

 
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10-18-07, 05:14 AM   #7  
How do I do the suspended ceiling?

 
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10-18-07, 07:13 AM   #8  
Suspended ceilings are typical in many office buildings as well as remodeled older homes where a lower ceiling than 10' + is desireable.

The ceiling consists of 3 basic parts:

The frame to hold individual tiles;
the wire to hold up the frame;
the tiles themselves.

The frame consists of wall molding, main runners, and cross tees.

The tiles are available in either 2'X2' or 2'X4' configuration.

Visit this site for a guide to installation:

http://www.armstrong.com/resclgam/na...icle18458.html.

Regardless of mfg., various tiles have differing acoustic properties.

 
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10-18-07, 04:39 PM   #9  
ok thanks I will look into this type of ceiling.

 
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10-24-07, 10:27 PM   #10  
I may be opening a can of worms on myself but Im going to say it anyway. A 2x8 wont span 14 feet or even 12 feet? What kind of 2x8 are you referring to? I have been frameing homes here in Georgia for 17 years just about all of them had 2x8 ceiling joist spanning 12 feet. I remember a few with 16 foot 2x8 ceiling joists. I even remember and have seen others with 2x8 floor joists spanning 12 foot. Every one of these homes passes Ga code and most were in Gwinnet and Fulton county. I also just checked the code book and this is all legal. Im not trying to spark an arguement or anything but was just wandering what species of lumber you are referring to. STD & BETTER lumber is fine in these cases. However, A 2x6 STD & BETTER will not safely make these spans. Just wandering and curious.

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10-25-07, 08:15 AM   #11  
thanks to all

Hi, I just want to say thanks to all that have responded to my question. I just went to home depot and bough 12 foot 2x8's and used 24" centers and the inspector said eberything was fine so thanks to everyone that got me through this problem of mine. So with that being said it just shows here in columbus, GA you can use 12 foot 2x8's

Thanks once again.

 
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10-25-07, 10:41 AM   #12  
Glad to hear to got it taken care of. Good luck with the recording studio.

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10-26-07, 02:23 PM   #13  
thanks Robert S

Thanks Robert S.

 
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