Full Length Joist sister - question...


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Old 04-16-14, 05:44 PM
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Full Length Joist sister - question...

We have a 2x8 x 14' joist that cracked in two places at the bottom (span is ~12', 16" o.c.). Near as I can tell, the cracking was due to an incorrectly drilled hole (too close to the bottom of the joist) + grain pattern in the area (it split right along the grain, starting at the hole). No bounce in the floors, no sagging.

I was able to fit a full length joist right next to it (same size, etc...), resting on the center beam of the house, and on the sill.

Now comes the fastening part. I've read online I need to nail sets of 3 16d nails every 16". But since this new joist is load bearing on both ends (just like the old joist), do I really need to go that route, or can I simply do the same with a strong screw (the local lumber yard recommended Power Pro Outdoor Wood Screws, #9 x 3")? I don't see why I would *need* to nail them together, since the new joist essentially replaces the cracked one.

Again - the cracking happened along two places where the grain was "exiting" the wood - almost as if the old joist had a burl. The rest of the joists are holding up fine.

Thoughts?

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Old 04-17-14, 03:30 AM
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You are correct with your theory, but you need to contend with possible twist of the two pieces of lumber. I would screw them to each other using 3" torx decking screws just on the off chance one bows or twists.
 
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Thanks. Screwing makes sense in light of what you said. Should I add some additional blocking, besides the two original cross-braces?
 
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Old 04-17-14, 04:03 AM
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I don't think it would hurt to block between each side of the repair. No need to go wild, but a couple on each side of the pier would keep them from moving.
 
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Old 04-18-14, 08:38 PM
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I sistered my first joist more than 40 years ago (that almost sounds prurient, doesn't it? Why is it called sistering, and not brothering?), using long screws and glue. But anyway, I think the second one I did I tried nailing the two joists together, with 16d commons, and it was somewhat of a losing battle. Even with the joists clamped together along the bottoms, and pre-drilling the sister, the nails wanted to push and deflect the original joist, to the point of getting a tight fit-up almost impossible. After a lot of blocking and bracing, and lots of talking to myself, I vowed never again to try nailing joists together. Glue-and-screw is the only way to go, and square-drives make the job easier than both Phillips (workable, with effort) and flat slotted (not at all workable).

Not an advertising attempt, just saying what's worked for me since the early 1980s--McFeely has a great square-drive screw product line, and good deals on starter packages.
 
 

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