what is the value add for vinyl over 'smartside'?
#1
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what is the value add for vinyl over 'smartside'?
Thinking about that shed still..
I wont be buying from Home Depot/Costco-- 24" on center and OSB felt less sturdy than the backyard places... So, I will have to open the wallet a bit...and I want this to be 'an investment'--ie, to last a very long time. 15-20 years at the minimum.
I have it in my head that if I pay the extra $400(ish) to 'upgrade' to vinyl siding, the shed will last a whole lot longer and not require maintenance.
Aesthetically, I am fine with SmartSide (T1-11). I just dont want/need more maintenance tasks. My house is vinyl sided
I was find with wood until I saw this: "All T1-11 is NOT the same...
I wont be buying from Home Depot/Costco-- 24" on center and OSB felt less sturdy than the backyard places... So, I will have to open the wallet a bit...and I want this to be 'an investment'--ie, to last a very long time. 15-20 years at the minimum.
I have it in my head that if I pay the extra $400(ish) to 'upgrade' to vinyl siding, the shed will last a whole lot longer and not require maintenance.
Aesthetically, I am fine with SmartSide (T1-11). I just dont want/need more maintenance tasks. My house is vinyl sided
I was find with wood until I saw this: "All T1-11 is NOT the same...
#2
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You don't have to paint vinyl. You know that. Not sure what you're asking since you seem to know the answer already.
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I've painted all 3 types of T-111 and the 3 common thicknesses; 5/8",1/2" and 3/8" Thicker is better but also cost more. For the longest life it's always best to coat the siding with oil base exterior wood primer followed by 1 or 2 coats of latex house paint. Nails that penetrate the surface should have the resulting hole filled with putty or caulk. How close the bottom of the wood is to the ground will also play a part in how long the siding will last. It's not uncommon for properly built and maintained T-111 to last decades.
Vinyl siding means you won't have to paint but it will still need to be cleaned from time to time. IF the siding is too low to the ground; weeds, grass and splashing rain can cause the plywood/osb behind the siding to get wet - shortening the life of the shed.
Vinyl siding means you won't have to paint but it will still need to be cleaned from time to time. IF the siding is too low to the ground; weeds, grass and splashing rain can cause the plywood/osb behind the siding to get wet - shortening the life of the shed.
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Hi! Wasn't trying to ask a question I already know the answer to-- my question is more about reasonable lifespan of a shed in T1-11 vs paying for vinyl.
Is it reasonable to expect the shed to last 10 years longer in vinyl vs T1-11 (I understand now that there are multiple variations--think most places use either SmartPanel or Duratemp)?
Is it reasonable to expect the shed to last 10 years longer in vinyl vs T1-11 (I understand now that there are multiple variations--think most places use either SmartPanel or Duratemp)?
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OK, I get it now. Mark said it well already:
You have to make sure your foundation extends at least 6" above grade or all bets are off on lifespan. Do this and I think vinyl is worth the cost.
IF the siding is too low to the ground; weeds, grass and splashing rain can cause the plywood/osb behind the siding to get wet - shortening the life of the shed.
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I've painted T-111 that was 20+ yrs old that was still in great condition. If proper building practices were used and the paint is maintained - T-111 will last a long time. Vinyl removes the need to make sure the paint stays in decent shape.
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One thing to consider when adding vinyl over T1-11 is the door, window and corner treatments. You will either have to extend them out to maintain a good shadow line or the vinyl j channel will be flush with the outside, which, IMO, is not very appealing.
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... my question is more about reasonable lifespan of a shed in T1-11 vs paying for vinyl.
I'm not a fan of scrapping paint so I've always used solid color oil stain, easy to put on with a roller but does take time to get all the grooves with a small brush. I'd guess I redo it every 5 years or so.
As mentioned, keep it off the ground a ways, I have a row of block so that isn't a problem for me.
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wow! this is great info! The shed will be on a gravel bed and on 4x4 runners. I would assume it would be 4" minimum off the gravel.
Sounds like $400 is a good investment for vinyl
Wish I liked the vinyl doors as much as the upgraded 'new england' style doors
Sounds like $400 is a good investment for vinyl
Wish I liked the vinyl doors as much as the upgraded 'new england' style doors
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...One thing to consider when adding vinyl over T1-11 is the door, window and corner treatments. You will either have to extend them out to maintain a good shadow line or the vinyl j channel will be flush with the outside, which, IMO, is not very appealing.
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That's correct, with new construction it's cheaper to use plywood or OSB if you know in advance it will be covered with vinyl siding. The door opening still needs to be planned properly. I would assume the builder would know .... do they have vinyl sided sheds for you to look at?
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very few on the lot. And none in the configuration I am considering.
I got the answer I was seeking: vinyl does extend the life of a (properly set, height-wise) shed while eliminating maintenance need. Thanks everyone!
One PS question, though... Any idea how long the ramp would need to be to drop 6"+ lip of door frame to the ground? 5'? less?
I got the answer I was seeking: vinyl does extend the life of a (properly set, height-wise) shed while eliminating maintenance need. Thanks everyone!
One PS question, though... Any idea how long the ramp would need to be to drop 6"+ lip of door frame to the ground? 5'? less?