What do you think of the GG Forums?
#1

Hi fellow gardeners, 
Has anyone posted their Pic yet over at GardenGuides Forum?
I have had some PC trouble but should be back up to speed & then post some Pics over yonder.
What do you all think of their picture albums? I really think they have a nice forum.
We have had 3 days of rain. What happened to the 90s LOL.
Marturo
Oh PS: The Slugo seems to be working, we stopped losing our NAPA cabbages after 2 days
More later.

Has anyone posted their Pic yet over at GardenGuides Forum?
I have had some PC trouble but should be back up to speed & then post some Pics over yonder.
What do you all think of their picture albums? I really think they have a nice forum.
We have had 3 days of rain. What happened to the 90s LOL.
Marturo
Oh PS: The Slugo seems to be working, we stopped losing our NAPA cabbages after 2 days

#3

Hi Kay,
Try the link below & if that won't work, go to the top Sticky Post, where is asks about (What do you think about the Garden Guides Photo Album?) There are other links there.
As you know we are limited on links & Pics here at DIY, so we post our pics over at 2 other forums.
We have a great group of gardeners over here on the Garden Forum. We run from the first timers, all the way up to Master Growers, I think you will find that Gardening can be one hobby that gives, more than it takes.
Gardeners as a group, are some of the most helpful people when it comes to helping others, I have ever met. So welcome Kay feel free to jump right in, & get some dirt under your fingernails LOL.
http://www.gardenpics.com/photos
Marturo
Try the link below & if that won't work, go to the top Sticky Post, where is asks about (What do you think about the Garden Guides Photo Album?) There are other links there.
As you know we are limited on links & Pics here at DIY, so we post our pics over at 2 other forums.
We have a great group of gardeners over here on the Garden Forum. We run from the first timers, all the way up to Master Growers, I think you will find that Gardening can be one hobby that gives, more than it takes.
Gardeners as a group, are some of the most helpful people when it comes to helping others, I have ever met. So welcome Kay feel free to jump right in, & get some dirt under your fingernails LOL.
http://www.gardenpics.com/photos
Marturo
#4
I really like the picture albums! Nicely catagorized and beautiful pictures!
Thank you for giving me the url. Really nice forum. Not hard to navigate either.
Thanks again!
Kay
Ps. I don't even remember what zone I'm in. Do they have called the 'dead' zone since I seem to have a black thumb
.
K.
Thank you for giving me the url. Really nice forum. Not hard to navigate either.
Thanks again!
Kay
Ps. I don't even remember what zone I'm in. Do they have called the 'dead' zone since I seem to have a black thumb

K.
#6

Hi Gami,
Your welcome, I found this Garden Guides awhile ago & like their style.
Someday I hope we can post Pics and get the use of our links back. But for now we will just have to meet other gardeners, & invite them to visit us.
I always enjoy seeing other gardeners Pics, you get so many good ideas from them.
Rain finely stopped, and we are starting to dry out. Get any rain lately?
Marturo
Your welcome, I found this Garden Guides awhile ago & like their style.
Someday I hope we can post Pics and get the use of our links back. But for now we will just have to meet other gardeners, & invite them to visit us.
I always enjoy seeing other gardeners Pics, you get so many good ideas from them.
Rain finely stopped, and we are starting to dry out. Get any rain lately?
Marturo
#7
Hi Marturo,
We haven't had any rain since the first of last week, but it was a slow, all day rain, and when digging, the soil is still moist. The grass doesn't show it tho. It's getting brown in spots, but still growing in most areas.
I hope others will check that site out too.
I called around trying to find AWP's locally, and some hadn't even heard of it. I decided it must not be hardy for our area and bought some annual rye, but haven't scattered it around yet.
Gami
We haven't had any rain since the first of last week, but it was a slow, all day rain, and when digging, the soil is still moist. The grass doesn't show it tho. It's getting brown in spots, but still growing in most areas.
I hope others will check that site out too.
I called around trying to find AWP's locally, and some hadn't even heard of it. I decided it must not be hardy for our area and bought some annual rye, but haven't scattered it around yet.
Gami
#8

Hi Gami,
We have almost 4.0 inches already this month. Talk about two faced
our Rasberries have been picked and thrown in compost due to molding for 1 & 1/2 weeks.
Yet we are in the -40" water table deficet sooo, let it rain, let it rain, let it rain
oh let it RAIN 
I have to go down each year & get behind the counter & look in the big book for the AWP, then we order. My Dad grows them in central Fla, not as a cover crop but he likes them to eat. He says they remind him of Jungle Peas.
You should have a Feed Supply store somewhere nearby only you need to go and look them up for them. The only problem with annual rye is, unlike peas they take your nitrogen away instead of puting it back. AWP will put in so much N that by Spring, your early plants will take off like rockets for a 30 day period.
Marturo
We have almost 4.0 inches already this month. Talk about two faced

Yet we are in the -40" water table deficet sooo, let it rain, let it rain, let it rain




I have to go down each year & get behind the counter & look in the big book for the AWP, then we order. My Dad grows them in central Fla, not as a cover crop but he likes them to eat. He says they remind him of Jungle Peas.
You should have a Feed Supply store somewhere nearby only you need to go and look them up for them. The only problem with annual rye is, unlike peas they take your nitrogen away instead of puting it back. AWP will put in so much N that by Spring, your early plants will take off like rockets for a 30 day period.
Marturo
#9
Hey guys!
Just like here, GG is filled with intelligent people with a lot of knowledge to share. And yes, they seem to be able to post pictures over there much easier than we can here. Since a bunch of us are already here and at Sierra, whats another site where we can all learn and educate?
Even as the season winds down for most of us, there are still people everywhere that are still in the height of their gardening season and we should be able to pick up some tips for next year 
Eric

Just like here, GG is filled with intelligent people with a lot of knowledge to share. And yes, they seem to be able to post pictures over there much easier than we can here. Since a bunch of us are already here and at Sierra, whats another site where we can all learn and educate?


Eric
#10
AS a gardenguides member,,, I have just signed on to DIY... and am finding my way around. there seems to be more choices here,,, other topics to engage in and learn more such as in the decorating and crafting areas.. not counting all the other useful informative topics.... What with Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas almost here. there should be some pretty good ideas for the holidays... I hope to see you all over at GG.. and I hope to see members from GG over here on this site.. This is a pretty neat site!!!

#11
Hi Glorifiedlily,
The same back at you!
This IS a neat site, as well as yours. We can all learn from each other.
I'm with you, the craft and decorative sites are also fun, entertaining and a great learning experience. I've had some computer problems lately. They're fixed to a certain extent, but when they weren't, I felt empty.
Welcome to DIY!
Gami
The same back at you!

I'm with you, the craft and decorative sites are also fun, entertaining and a great learning experience. I've had some computer problems lately. They're fixed to a certain extent, but when they weren't, I felt empty.
Welcome to DIY!

Gami
#12
Thank you Gami.. I do see things over here that I can relate too..I'm like anyone,, and I do enjoy jovial chatting. but I also enjoy learning what others know and maybe once in a while having something worthwhile to say. We can get carried away at GG.. as you may know already... but, this forum gives more options and more conversational topics on lots of interests for anyone to enjoy and gain access to.. I think this is all unique... the correlation to both sites, actually three of them.. as chamomile times is also another good site..but, I'm not here to promote that...all are good sites and well informed ones at that... that is what I mean...
#13
Hi everyone!
I am new here and am still just getting my feet wet. I really have enjoyed what I have seen and read so far and hope that some of the enthusiasm rubs off!
Can anyone give me an idea of an online source for interactive garden design? I am going to renovate my entire front yard ( lol it's only about 600 square feet ). And wish I knew how to create a plan that includes what I can do now and what I want it to eventually become. I know there is a whole bunch of software programs out there but I seriously don't want to spend $150 or more on a program I will likely only use once or twice.
Also it it wise to undertake a renovation now while most of my shrubs/trees are under such stress from the drought? Are there any steps I should take to prepare them for the move? Even my *****willow ( the damn thing is so huge I wish i could move IT! ) is dropping all it's leaves and blooming at the same time! While I won't be moving any trees around I will have to move a shrub or two and quite a few of my bulbs and perrenials.
It's been a horrid summer for my particular piece of the planet... unless of course you are a weed. Beause of where I live, the Jersey Shore, I am limited to doing alot of container gardening out back because my whole back yard is basically deck and it gets baked all day in the sun and often it's breezy which dries everything out. What little backyard I have is stone ( more heat ) I have just decided to attempt a raised bed or two. With strict water restrictions this summer I let most of the containers go dormant and or die. I did do dish & shower water collecting for some and that has helped but it's sad not to see flowers in most of them
Don't you hate water wasters? there is this one house I go by and I swear they have a steady misting system on their plants... This is a total waste when the wind is blowing 5-10 knots and most of what is being misted evaporates! This summer got me sooo upset; when I see such irresponsible use ( waste ) of what is surely becoming our most valuable asset.. WATER it makes me quite angry
... okay short rant over... for now anyway!
Thanks for reading and any advice in advance!
I am new here and am still just getting my feet wet. I really have enjoyed what I have seen and read so far and hope that some of the enthusiasm rubs off!

Can anyone give me an idea of an online source for interactive garden design? I am going to renovate my entire front yard ( lol it's only about 600 square feet ). And wish I knew how to create a plan that includes what I can do now and what I want it to eventually become. I know there is a whole bunch of software programs out there but I seriously don't want to spend $150 or more on a program I will likely only use once or twice.
Also it it wise to undertake a renovation now while most of my shrubs/trees are under such stress from the drought? Are there any steps I should take to prepare them for the move? Even my *****willow ( the damn thing is so huge I wish i could move IT! ) is dropping all it's leaves and blooming at the same time! While I won't be moving any trees around I will have to move a shrub or two and quite a few of my bulbs and perrenials.
It's been a horrid summer for my particular piece of the planet... unless of course you are a weed. Beause of where I live, the Jersey Shore, I am limited to doing alot of container gardening out back because my whole back yard is basically deck and it gets baked all day in the sun and often it's breezy which dries everything out. What little backyard I have is stone ( more heat ) I have just decided to attempt a raised bed or two. With strict water restrictions this summer I let most of the containers go dormant and or die. I did do dish & shower water collecting for some and that has helped but it's sad not to see flowers in most of them

Don't you hate water wasters? there is this one house I go by and I swear they have a steady misting system on their plants... This is a total waste when the wind is blowing 5-10 knots and most of what is being misted evaporates! This summer got me sooo upset; when I see such irresponsible use ( waste ) of what is surely becoming our most valuable asset.. WATER it makes me quite angry

Thanks for reading and any advice in advance!
#14
Bomber:
Hello from a former( but always in my heart ) Rhode Islander! My husband was born in Warwick and I am from the Wakefield area ( Snug Harbor ) and, my sister has worked at URI in the Foreign Languages Dept for decades it seems!
What a small world!
Congrats on th Master Gardener Program! Quite the task at hand... good luck!
Kath
Hello from a former( but always in my heart ) Rhode Islander! My husband was born in Warwick and I am from the Wakefield area ( Snug Harbor ) and, my sister has worked at URI in the Foreign Languages Dept for decades it seems!
What a small world!
Congrats on th Master Gardener Program! Quite the task at hand... good luck!
Kath
#15
Good Morning to you,, Shorebird... I know exactly what you are saying about the water waste... Down here in nc we have had the worst drought ever. and if had not been for some of the rains we got several weeks ago.. all the shrubs and plants here would be gone as well as what you speak about in your area....
Have you checked out the landscaping on this site? there just may be a great answer for you on this big job you have in mind for your yards... also,, at GardenGuides. com.. you may also pick up more information to futher help you out.... With the salt air in your area and the dryness of your shrubs.. I would hesitate to move anything now, until the early spring.. I'd wait for snow or heavy rains during the fall/winter months... you can move shrubs in the early spring and it will not hurt them as long as they do not go into shock... I don't that I have helped you any,, but, I don't mind listening to you vent..... I understand...believe you me..
Have you checked out the landscaping on this site? there just may be a great answer for you on this big job you have in mind for your yards... also,, at GardenGuides. com.. you may also pick up more information to futher help you out.... With the salt air in your area and the dryness of your shrubs.. I would hesitate to move anything now, until the early spring.. I'd wait for snow or heavy rains during the fall/winter months... you can move shrubs in the early spring and it will not hurt them as long as they do not go into shock... I don't that I have helped you any,, but, I don't mind listening to you vent..... I understand...believe you me..

#16

Hi Shorebird Welcome to DIYs Garden Forum 
I am really happy to see all our new friends are here, & we are there. Where? Who cares, as long as we are all having fun & learning.
Some kidding aside, I have been over at Guarden Guides & will have to say that I may never, get over the great
welcome I got over there. I warned Ya, so you may want to sneak in the back door, at first LOL.
I will swear that I will get around to posting some of our Farm Pics over at GG, as soon as the Farmwork starts winding down for the season.
You know that 30 day period, before we have to start all the early Spring crops. Me Mum told me, I would be better off to become a Day trader, instead of a Farmer. I told her I did not like to take Chances, so I became a Farmer, where everything always turns out like you plant it to
I know by talking with you all, that it has been a real tough year, Hot & Dry to floods and everything in between. We made it through another Season, & it won't be long before we start getting that Ol growing fever again.
We are trying to all put together a list of Seeds, plants, & Tree sellers, who we can trust to give us good service & products. The Markets are all so different than they were just 10 years ago, so we have to be careful these days who we buy from.
Looking through some seed catalogs today, it seems like your at Pier 21 imports. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind buying seeds from overseas. It just seems that these are the Seed houses, that we get more mix-ups on our seed orders with though.
So don't keep all the good ones to yourself
. If you have been buying from a Company that you really like, please let us know by posting up top in the Sticky, we setup for buying seeds...
Happy customers are who I listen too, not fancy ADs, so I would rather listen to you, than all the color pictures in those fancy Catalogs. If you like them and they have not been bought out twice in one year, by other companies, that's who we want to know about.
Marturo

I am really happy to see all our new friends are here, & we are there. Where? Who cares, as long as we are all having fun & learning.
Some kidding aside, I have been over at Guarden Guides & will have to say that I may never, get over the great

I will swear that I will get around to posting some of our Farm Pics over at GG, as soon as the Farmwork starts winding down for the season.
You know that 30 day period, before we have to start all the early Spring crops. Me Mum told me, I would be better off to become a Day trader, instead of a Farmer. I told her I did not like to take Chances, so I became a Farmer, where everything always turns out like you plant it to

I know by talking with you all, that it has been a real tough year, Hot & Dry to floods and everything in between. We made it through another Season, & it won't be long before we start getting that Ol growing fever again.
We are trying to all put together a list of Seeds, plants, & Tree sellers, who we can trust to give us good service & products. The Markets are all so different than they were just 10 years ago, so we have to be careful these days who we buy from.
Looking through some seed catalogs today, it seems like your at Pier 21 imports. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind buying seeds from overseas. It just seems that these are the Seed houses, that we get more mix-ups on our seed orders with though.
So don't keep all the good ones to yourself

Happy customers are who I listen too, not fancy ADs, so I would rather listen to you, than all the color pictures in those fancy Catalogs. If you like them and they have not been bought out twice in one year, by other companies, that's who we want to know about.
Marturo
Last edited by marturo; 10-12-02 at 02:08 PM.
#17
Well, Maturo.. I always liked Springhill Nursery. but I did not know they sold out.. every plant and or bulb I bought from them was a success if only I had listened to the instructions... any time I had a plant that did not grow, they replaced it..
#18

Hi glorifiedlily,
That's a good plug for them. I will check them out, thanks.
The reason & I know that this has happened to others. I harp on buyouts and what do the do for us now. IS I was hosting my web with this WPP ( Web Host ) I won't call names.
They changed hands 3 times in 2 Years. I was using MS FrontPage because as a Farmer, the last thing I had time for was to learn HTML. FrontPage takes something extra, on the part of the WPP & without it or if it's not working, your web won't do what you want it to do.
In the end they, would not answer their phones & when they did some Kid answered, who did not know how to setup an e-mail account. So dump them take the loss. Did I mention I was in the peak selling time, with every customer waiting for Web produce updates?
To make as short as possabile I had to get the people who regestered my Domain Name to give me access to my own names in order for the new WPP, to allow me to post my web NOW. Time I could not update my Web 2.5 weeks. We lost so much in produce sales, it pales in comparesion, to a years cost for hosting with the new company. Had to fight this bunch of crooks, for access to my own DN, so I could get my Site up & selling again.
It's things such as this, I guess that get's my little red light to go off, but you can't assume that you are dealing with Seeds Of Change when it Hurseys Chocolate Company who owns them now. What did Hurseys do? Well to start now they sell overseas seeds & not the small American Family Farm seeds that they did sell.
My beef alone maybe? However their seeds don't germinate as well now so, I don't buy from them anymore. So my point is. Why should it mater if you don't like their politics? It should only, if you pay 25 cents for 20 seeds and only 14 came up in controled conditions, we lost $1.50 & thats a pound of Broccoli to pay for that loss.
So you see I read 89 percent germanation on the pkg, & that used to mean 95, because they rated them for Gardeners who planted them in the soil. At 25 cents ea we buy 500, we can't take those 74 & 75 percent germanation under controled conditions and see the profit we need. Every seed we plant is $$$ that go to fix & buy new tools & all our other growing needs. The profit goes back into the Farm or we stagnate & Die.
It's sometimes hard to know when the same seed co you have been buying from for years, is now part of a bigger seed CO-OP that buys the cheap seeds grown overseas, & stored in overheated conditions. But not impossable. Not if we share our experiences good & Bad about these Companies.
Marturo
That's a good plug for them. I will check them out, thanks.

The reason & I know that this has happened to others. I harp on buyouts and what do the do for us now. IS I was hosting my web with this WPP ( Web Host ) I won't call names.
They changed hands 3 times in 2 Years. I was using MS FrontPage because as a Farmer, the last thing I had time for was to learn HTML. FrontPage takes something extra, on the part of the WPP & without it or if it's not working, your web won't do what you want it to do.
In the end they, would not answer their phones & when they did some Kid answered, who did not know how to setup an e-mail account. So dump them take the loss. Did I mention I was in the peak selling time, with every customer waiting for Web produce updates?
To make as short as possabile I had to get the people who regestered my Domain Name to give me access to my own names in order for the new WPP, to allow me to post my web NOW. Time I could not update my Web 2.5 weeks. We lost so much in produce sales, it pales in comparesion, to a years cost for hosting with the new company. Had to fight this bunch of crooks, for access to my own DN, so I could get my Site up & selling again.
It's things such as this, I guess that get's my little red light to go off, but you can't assume that you are dealing with Seeds Of Change when it Hurseys Chocolate Company who owns them now. What did Hurseys do? Well to start now they sell overseas seeds & not the small American Family Farm seeds that they did sell.
My beef alone maybe? However their seeds don't germinate as well now so, I don't buy from them anymore. So my point is. Why should it mater if you don't like their politics? It should only, if you pay 25 cents for 20 seeds and only 14 came up in controled conditions, we lost $1.50 & thats a pound of Broccoli to pay for that loss.
So you see I read 89 percent germanation on the pkg, & that used to mean 95, because they rated them for Gardeners who planted them in the soil. At 25 cents ea we buy 500, we can't take those 74 & 75 percent germanation under controled conditions and see the profit we need. Every seed we plant is $$$ that go to fix & buy new tools & all our other growing needs. The profit goes back into the Farm or we stagnate & Die.
It's sometimes hard to know when the same seed co you have been buying from for years, is now part of a bigger seed CO-OP that buys the cheap seeds grown overseas, & stored in overheated conditions. But not impossable. Not if we share our experiences good & Bad about these Companies.
Marturo
#19
Maturo.. it is and was the same way with the textile mills... you grow the seed to produce cotton. and take the cotton to produce yarn and take the yarn to produce a knitted material.. and then you take the knitted material and produce a garment.. but in between all of this action you have to purchase dye chemicals to get the exact color swatch a customer is requesting... but,, when you take all of that and move out from your place into a place that is quite foreign... you loose big time.. everything... It's all about the dollar and cheaper labor, and it has costed the livlihoods and salaries of so many who needed a wage earning to support their families... but, who listens... nobody as it is all a political game for a higher dollar at the cost of willing people who need to work and who want to work.. so I guess it's the same way in seeds and farm producing as it is in everything else... The only thing that is sacred anymore,, is the one who within their own hearts try to hang on to the real meaning of life... that being... God help us as we have ruined all you gave to us.. Not all of us.. but lots of us. have taken what our forefathers worked so hard and long for and just gave it all away...
#20

Hi glorifiedlily,
You know that's so, way to many just, take take take, & don't have a clue what life is about.
Our Apples Farmers have been done in by cheap China Apple juce. So our state Government went down to make a deal with Castro to sell NC Apples
good for them.
Big Brother say no to NC so NC say, you sell and buy with China, & they are Commies also, so NC said butt out Feds
States gota take care of states & stop sending money to those clowns in Wahington, to waste it on their Pork pies.
There are still a lot who know, what a great chance that America can give them for hard work.
God help us as we have ruined all you gave to us.. Not all of us.. Not all our only hope it to teach our Children there is more than just the Buck a Day club & that something is eternity with God. Rich may can't share so he can't get in the door, you got to leave all that money here. Best way is If you got to much, share with someone with nothing.
Sounds so easy, but yet is so hard to share with others. Even the Earth that we don't own, we ruin it just for more money.
Marturo
You know that's so, way to many just, take take take, & don't have a clue what life is about.
Our Apples Farmers have been done in by cheap China Apple juce. So our state Government went down to make a deal with Castro to sell NC Apples

Big Brother say no to NC so NC say, you sell and buy with China, & they are Commies also, so NC said butt out Feds

States gota take care of states & stop sending money to those clowns in Wahington, to waste it on their Pork pies.
There are still a lot who know, what a great chance that America can give them for hard work.
God help us as we have ruined all you gave to us.. Not all of us.. Not all our only hope it to teach our Children there is more than just the Buck a Day club & that something is eternity with God. Rich may can't share so he can't get in the door, you got to leave all that money here. Best way is If you got to much, share with someone with nothing.
Sounds so easy, but yet is so hard to share with others. Even the Earth that we don't own, we ruin it just for more money.
Marturo
#21
I find it to be a sad day,,, everyday..as I can remember being a graduate out of high school the promises and the great chances I had to go to work and learn by hands on doing a job,, when I could not afford college nor did I have the mentality to enter into a college.. I was a slow learner and I could not pass to get into college but, I did pass to get a job that taught me not only a job by doing but also taught me how to get along with my fellow co workers... which is a lesson all of its own in the workplace.. but through the years as I have seen what was a great place to live.. it has been tossed out and given away....I believe in trade, but, I also believe it is important to take care of home first and then venture out to gain from others and to share and make arrangements for others to gain access to a good life.. but, to give it all away for the dollar is so sad..... we have lost not only our pride,, but, we have lost our children because there is hardly anyone left to teach what is really important. Peer pressure our kids are suffering from is not good at all. and when children want what is dicdated to them by fashion fau paux and the media on all circuits.. there is nothing gained... for the last few years I have been excited to see a peach tree grow from a seed I planted and this year it produced a few peaches, and I was so excited to see peaches... That is a prime example of what we should still be teaching our children and experiencing within our selves... but it isn't that way!! that is sad... still there are those among us who still care!!!!