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Advice for type of perennial vine in Boston?

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Old 05-28-06, 08:51 PM
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Advice for type of perennial vine in Boston?

Hi,
I just cut away overgrown grape vines that were taking over the chain link fence and acting as a bridge for ants up to the house. It was also there so long it's actually grown up into the trees though it appears to have actually died- the skeleton is left behind. I'll have to get someone to go up a ladder for me to get that scarey looking twisted thing outta there.
Now that the fence is clear, I realize I liked having something growing along the top or even up the sides... I have a dog too and the foliage helps block his view of passers by to bark at! Plus, it's up off the ground whereas he'd trample bushes (unless I put them on the opposite side) but that's $$.
Any suggestions? I recall someone in my old neighborhood had a prolific vine that bloomed pretty white flowers in late Summer/early Fall. They almost looked encased in a bean pod prior to blooming. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
(I've been using annual morning glories in other parts of the yard- but I don't know if they come as perennials or not?)
Thanks!
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Old 06-01-06, 09:22 AM
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Ivy or Clematis is pretty too.
 
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Old 06-01-06, 01:04 PM
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For year round, an evergreen vine would be desirable. English Ivy, Confederate or Star Jasmine, and Coral or Red Honey Suckle are examples of evergreen vines.
 
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Hi Deb,

I think your hardiness zone is 6. Here's a zip code zone finder.
http://www.gardenweb.com/zones/zip.cgi

I live in zone 7 and find that my native honeysuckle isn't reliably evergreen in winter, though I do cherish it. One of my favorites is the native Lonicera sempervirens 'Blanche Sandman'. It starts blooming in my zone 7 garden at the end of May/beginning of June and blooms on and off until hard frost. I love watching the hummingbirds sip the nectar. In fall the birds eat the berries and since it's a native, it's not invasive. Lonicera sempervirens 'Alabama Crimson' is another selection with the same habits.
http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/p....asp?code=B934
http://oakmediacreations.com/myg/pla...cs/000116a.jpg
http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/p....asp?code=B913
http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/i...-0701051gk.jpg

Lonicera heckrottii - Gold Flame honeysuckle is another native that's not invasive and has the same bloom habit. It's also fragrant, but the fragrance is variable, so if fragrance is important to you, select one when it's in bloom.
http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/p....asp?code=B839
http://www.mailordernatives.com/coral.jpg

With no disrespect to the other posters, I think you will find that ivy will end up like the grape and quickly get out of control and climb the trees. You would have to watch it carefully to keep it on the fence and prune every year to keep it in control. It doesn't grow as vigorously as the grape.

I like the suggestion of the Clematis and there are many to choose from. Some
bloom longer then others with the bell shaped flowers seeming to bloom longer. Clematis 'Betty Corning' is one of my favorites for longer bloom.
http://www.britishclematis.org.uk/ccbettycorn.html

Not sure the jasmines would be hardy in your zone.

I can't think of the name of the vine you mention. Any way you can ask that person the name of the vine or for a cutting? Many gardeners are more then happy to share.

This site is great for checking references of mail order nurseries.
http://davesgarden.com/gwd/

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Thanks!

You're right- I am in Zone 6. Thank you for the websites- they're really helpful. Unfortunately- most of the part of my fence where I removed the grapes from is shaded so doesn't look like most of the vines shown would grow well as full sun was mentioned... maybe the Golden Flame one if I can find it.
Or, clematus... though I have a couple tiny plants I'm trying to get to grow now in very WET soil and they're not doing so well- but that's on the other side of the yard- so I can maybe try them on the shaded side too...
Thanks for the help. I agree re: the English Ivy, etc... my house isn't "grand" enough to support the look of such traililng ivy...
it looks best on brick or a dark 2 story home. I have a little vanilla colored cape. And, I don't want to be bothered trimming it all the time when it reaches the end of my fence and reaches for the windows!
Thanks,
deb
 
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Deb, you are so very welcome. I would definately recommend you move the clematis that are in wet conditions. There are clematis that will grow in a shady spot.
http://stores.yahoo.com/chalkhillcle...sforshade.html

If there is 2 hours or less of sun you will definately have a hard time finding something that isn't invasive. I still think the native honeysuckles and their crosses are a good bet along with the above clematis. Take a look here what this says.
http://www.midwestlandscapeplants.or...?speciesid=662

Lonicera x brownii is a cross with the native L. sempervirens.
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/c...x_brownii.html

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Honeysuckle

Hi,
I like the Scarlet Honeysuckle if I can find it here in Boston...
What I couldn't believe is that the grape vine has already grown like 3 feet spreading onto the fence since I last cut it all back!
It originates I think in the neighbor's yard or at least someplace where I can't find its roots in the woods... so I may need to try and train it to RETURN to the opposite direction as it'll strangle anything new I get! What a mess.
The Clematus all died! We got like 12" of rain in 2wks here and it drowned. They were small to start with and never had a chance. I'll have to try new plants and move them out of the "wetlands" in my backyard and try out front.
Any suggestions for a climber that may do well in moist soil?
Oddly, a climbing rose bush I bought at Home Depot is growing and I had basically forgotten about it~ so that's good! It was cheap too so I may look for another of those. *My dog eats roses though (yes- thorns and all) so I need to put a little fence around it- he's gotten a little better since he's older but he used to eat all the heads off my potted plants on the porch and I was blaming squirrels until I saw HIM do it one day! What a weirdo- plus some flowers can be poisonous- I think Iris might be.
deb
 
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