Can You Identify This Shrub ?

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Old 12-09-15, 10:06 AM
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Can You Identify This Shrub ?

Can anyone identify the small evergreen shrub in the center? I looks like a type of juniper to me, but I like to know the variety and any added info if possible. We have a Eastern Red Cedar (type of juniper) on the property, but the foliage is different. I am interesting in transplanting this somewhere else on the property.


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Post an up close pic of the needles. Does it have berries on it any time of the year?
 
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No berries. It seems to have just grown in the last year or two. There is a smaller sapling near it about 5 inches high. Let me know if the pic is clear enough, if not I can take a better closeup pic.


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It looks like a cedar tree.
 
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It also looks like our Tamarack trees (a deciduous coniferous like a Larch) but even in New Jersey, they would have turned gold and then shed their needles by now.

Is that ground cover Creeping Myrtle ?
 
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What looks like ground cover is the tips of the branches of a Japanese Holly Helleri.
 
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I'm thinking weed as opposed to shrub. Since seeds don't fall miles from their tree, is there anything like it anywhere reasonably close by, a mature tree?

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Seeds do fall far from the tree. By birds.
 
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Since seeds don't fall miles from their tree, is there anything like it anywhere reasonably close by, a mature tree?
There is a Eastern Red Cedar on the property, but the needles are different.

Yep, the birds can do their job with the seeds. The ERC has berries in the fall.
 
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I do understand propagation by birds, just looking for an obvious parent.

Did a bunch of searching and found nothing.

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I'm also thinking a cedar tree. I probably have a 100 of them on my property and they look just like that [green coloring might be slightly different but that can change due to soil/light] when they first come up.
 
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I predominantly have two types of cedars on my property. I'm guessing they are red and white eastern cedar. While similar one has much softer needles and the other can be painful to grab.
 
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Maybe it could be a Eastern Red Cedar even though the needles are somewhat different, which might grow differently when they are young. The needles are somewhat prickly to the touch.
 
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I have them appear even in my mowed yard. Birds drop the seeds and they will grow about anywhere.

This summer I left two go to see if mowing would kill them. Nope. They just looked like bonsai. Short little trees growing healthy and strong even when anything above 4" got cut off.
 
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I would say Pilot Dane and the others who said cedar/juniper are correct. Where I grew up, my parents had 20 acres of pasture and trees. They had some variety of cedar/juniper. Some were spiny (especially when young) others had softer needles/branches.

This link describes what is likely the same tree they and you have. Interestingly, it mentions that sometimes both kinds of leaves can be on the same tree... something I always noticed and thought was odd.

Juniperus virginiana Fact Sheet

I'd say the likelihood is 99.9% that the seedling is from the very same tree you already have, since the birds did the planting. Such a young tree would not be expected to have berries yet.
 
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