Update
#1
Update
Hey guys!
After a weeks hiatus due to the wedding from he**, operation greenhouse resumes tomorrow. Already got radish sprouts coming up, and I planted the peas and onions today. It has been a very cold day here in Rhode Island; its only 43 outside (it was 17 Thursday morning) but a roasty toasty 60 in the greenhouse. Also received my plants from Richters yesterday. Now, if only this digital camera wasnt so tempermental, I might be able to get a good picture. As it turns out, no such luck. But the flashbulb will be popping this summer
Elizabeth, I know you are hiding out there.... whats the status with your sprouts??
Eric
After a weeks hiatus due to the wedding from he**, operation greenhouse resumes tomorrow. Already got radish sprouts coming up, and I planted the peas and onions today. It has been a very cold day here in Rhode Island; its only 43 outside (it was 17 Thursday morning) but a roasty toasty 60 in the greenhouse. Also received my plants from Richters yesterday. Now, if only this digital camera wasnt so tempermental, I might be able to get a good picture. As it turns out, no such luck. But the flashbulb will be popping this summer

Elizabeth, I know you are hiding out there.... whats the status with your sprouts??
Eric
#2
Hi there!
I'm not hiding --- I'm planting stuff.....My little sprouts are doing well, for the most part, especailly the sweet peppers.
More later.
Also, stay tuned for a very embarrasing response to my own dumb thread regarding Monkey Grass....
Elizabeth
I'm not hiding --- I'm planting stuff.....My little sprouts are doing well, for the most part, especailly the sweet peppers.

More later.
Also, stay tuned for a very embarrasing response to my own dumb thread regarding Monkey Grass....

Elizabeth
#3
Elizabeth,
I noticed what you called the embarrassing post on monkey grass. Hey, we all have our moments in the sun, or the dark as it were
Glad to hear the sprouts are doing well. I started my seed flat yesterday with beets, leeks, and peanuts. Also, using the website you gave me as a reference, the watercress has been started in the greenhouse in a pot, as has the fennel, feverfew and St. John's Wort. Ive got a friend who said she was willing to try herbal remedies for depression, so I picked up some St. John's Wort. Let's see if I become Dr Eric or Dr Kevorkian
Eric
I noticed what you called the embarrassing post on monkey grass. Hey, we all have our moments in the sun, or the dark as it were

Glad to hear the sprouts are doing well. I started my seed flat yesterday with beets, leeks, and peanuts. Also, using the website you gave me as a reference, the watercress has been started in the greenhouse in a pot, as has the fennel, feverfew and St. John's Wort. Ive got a friend who said she was willing to try herbal remedies for depression, so I picked up some St. John's Wort. Let's see if I become Dr Eric or Dr Kevorkian

Eric
#4
Hey there Eric!
So you're going to do some doctorin', eh?
That's really neat that you're going to grow St. John's Wort -- I've considered having some St. John's Wort around for those inevitable depressing garden moments -- I can feel one coming on soon, since I just spotted a great big ground hog only several yards away from the garden
Besides a .22, how does one deal with such large critters?!
Update on the North Garden Scene:
I finally mustered the nerve to get into the old herb bed here to see what (if anything) was coming back. I felt like I'd played the waiting game long enough. I found two kinds of oregano and some lemon balm. I hand tilled around those areas, potted some of the oregano up, and then got the big tiller to turn the rest of the garden. This area is about 17 x 7, so I've got plenty of room to put the basil, summery savory, chives, etc. That area is loaded with earthworms!!! I could not believe my eyes!
And I planted peas, onion, scallions, spinach and radishes on Monday.
How's your weather up there? Is it warming up some? I hope so.
Bye for now.
Elizabeth
So you're going to do some doctorin', eh?


Update on the North Garden Scene:
I finally mustered the nerve to get into the old herb bed here to see what (if anything) was coming back. I felt like I'd played the waiting game long enough. I found two kinds of oregano and some lemon balm. I hand tilled around those areas, potted some of the oregano up, and then got the big tiller to turn the rest of the garden. This area is about 17 x 7, so I've got plenty of room to put the basil, summery savory, chives, etc. That area is loaded with earthworms!!! I could not believe my eyes!
And I planted peas, onion, scallions, spinach and radishes on Monday.
How's your weather up there? Is it warming up some? I hope so.
Bye for now.

Elizabeth
#5
Elizabeth,
I'd like to report that it is as warm up here as it is down there, but I can't. Well, not truthfully at least...
Went out today at lunch and FINALLY bought my beans and bought red onion sets.
Ground hogs can be a problem. I would recommend calling Bill Murray and having him take care of them
No seriously, I honestly dont know. If I were you, Id start a new thread, and then watch the response pour in. This is what I was talking about over the winter.... when the springtime comes and our garden dreams and nightmares become reality, we will all be here to help each other out 
Some notes on companion planting for herbs. I hope that you followed my advice about the companion planting for the veggies. Once your peppers are moved outside, sow or plant the basil near the peppers. Good companions. Chives: keep them away from the peas. Those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. I know a while back in a post or an IM conversation or wherever, you mentioned cilantro. No bad companions. Well, except fennel, but then again, fennel is a bad companion for anything, hence the reason mine is in a bucket alone... But if you are going to grow tomatoes, i would recommend a tomato plant flanked with basil on one side and cilantro on the other. Not right under the plant though obviously, so they dont have to compete for water, sun, and nutrients.
Hmmmmmmm.... thats about all for me. Week 4 of operation greenhouse is going to involve a watering system I think. Hope Depot is going to LOVE me by the end of this season
All the money spent on hardware, and now going to by more hose and some PVC pipe. As Susan Powter once said, "STOP THE INSANITY!"
Eric
I'd like to report that it is as warm up here as it is down there, but I can't. Well, not truthfully at least...

Ground hogs can be a problem. I would recommend calling Bill Murray and having him take care of them


Some notes on companion planting for herbs. I hope that you followed my advice about the companion planting for the veggies. Once your peppers are moved outside, sow or plant the basil near the peppers. Good companions. Chives: keep them away from the peas. Those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. I know a while back in a post or an IM conversation or wherever, you mentioned cilantro. No bad companions. Well, except fennel, but then again, fennel is a bad companion for anything, hence the reason mine is in a bucket alone... But if you are going to grow tomatoes, i would recommend a tomato plant flanked with basil on one side and cilantro on the other. Not right under the plant though obviously, so they dont have to compete for water, sun, and nutrients.
Hmmmmmmm.... thats about all for me. Week 4 of operation greenhouse is going to involve a watering system I think. Hope Depot is going to LOVE me by the end of this season

Eric
#6
Eric,
It's our duty as Americans to pour money into our economy!
So, now, you're off the hook, okay? Spend, spend, spend, spend, spend......
I cannot remember when we talked about companion planting, but I know we did. I've been very encouraged by you and many other sources to learn as much as I can about it. I've read that many herbs, like parsley, marjoram, and basil work well just about anywhere, while only a few, like rue and fennel need to be on their own. I'd forgotten about cilantro near tomatoes (or maybe this is one that slipped by me...). Thanks for mentioning that!
I am definitely planning to place herbs all through the veg garden, and then nurture some in pots near the kitchen door, not to mention packing the 17 x 7 area! A lot of my little seedlings, though, are starting to look sort of sad - All of a sudden, I'm frantically trying to keep them moist, by misting, and filling the trays under neath with water. They are drying so fast (not drying OUT, though, thankfully). At the same time, I must be doing something right, because I am seeing (drum roll, please......) TRUE leaves starting! I should have plenty of survivors to do what I want to do, huh?!
I will start a thread, as you suggested, asking for advice on politically correct, earth friendly eradication of large 4-legged pests....
We also have deer, and **wince** bears! The county I live in leads the state in bear populations. Just black bears......
As always, thanks for the help and the humor!

Elizabeth
It's our duty as Americans to pour money into our economy!

I cannot remember when we talked about companion planting, but I know we did. I've been very encouraged by you and many other sources to learn as much as I can about it. I've read that many herbs, like parsley, marjoram, and basil work well just about anywhere, while only a few, like rue and fennel need to be on their own. I'd forgotten about cilantro near tomatoes (or maybe this is one that slipped by me...). Thanks for mentioning that!
I am definitely planning to place herbs all through the veg garden, and then nurture some in pots near the kitchen door, not to mention packing the 17 x 7 area! A lot of my little seedlings, though, are starting to look sort of sad - All of a sudden, I'm frantically trying to keep them moist, by misting, and filling the trays under neath with water. They are drying so fast (not drying OUT, though, thankfully). At the same time, I must be doing something right, because I am seeing (drum roll, please......) TRUE leaves starting! I should have plenty of survivors to do what I want to do, huh?!
I will start a thread, as you suggested, asking for advice on politically correct, earth friendly eradication of large 4-legged pests....

As always, thanks for the help and the humor!

Elizabeth
#7
Elizabeth,
Dont crowd them lil seedlings too close! Not only wont they grow, but you will have to deal with the emotional pain of losing your babies that you worked so hard to mother this winter.... You didnt put diapers under the pots to catch the drips did you??
Went to one of the local nurseries today during lunch, and had to leave before the wallet opened. Row upon endless row of stuff! About 35 different varieties of herbs, more than 200 varieties of flowers, and the early season veggies... It was heaven on earth
Of course, I had to come back here to deal with the reality of tech support... Life can be so cruel sometimes
I have tomorrow off, so Im going back down and going to splurge baby! 
How high is the fence around your garden of eden? Remember deer can jump, so if you hink the fence is high enough, it probably isnt. I'd get two armed pinkerton guards to stand watch by the gate 24/7
Seriously, if deer are a problem, check out this website:
http://www.nottonight.com/index2.html
Youre welcome for the advice and the humor. I try to specialize in both, sometimes humor winning out. Where are your pics on sierra??? I cant wait for this weekend... a whole weekend of nice weather and working in the greenhouse. I promise I will take pictures.
*sigh* Well I suppose its time to go and get back to work... C'mon 5pm
Eric
Dont crowd them lil seedlings too close! Not only wont they grow, but you will have to deal with the emotional pain of losing your babies that you worked so hard to mother this winter.... You didnt put diapers under the pots to catch the drips did you??

Went to one of the local nurseries today during lunch, and had to leave before the wallet opened. Row upon endless row of stuff! About 35 different varieties of herbs, more than 200 varieties of flowers, and the early season veggies... It was heaven on earth



How high is the fence around your garden of eden? Remember deer can jump, so if you hink the fence is high enough, it probably isnt. I'd get two armed pinkerton guards to stand watch by the gate 24/7

http://www.nottonight.com/index2.html
Youre welcome for the advice and the humor. I try to specialize in both, sometimes humor winning out. Where are your pics on sierra??? I cant wait for this weekend... a whole weekend of nice weather and working in the greenhouse. I promise I will take pictures.
*sigh* Well I suppose its time to go and get back to work... C'mon 5pm

Eric
#8
Eric,
I know that was a typo in your second to last paragraph - you meant to call my garden the "garden of EATIN'" didn't you?
)
To answer your question about my "nursery", I did some over seeding in some of the cells, but have been thinning each like a mad woman. There's really only one cell of basil I completely goofed on. Yes, it was a very painful time, but one has to move on, now doesn't one?
But seriously, I have read that chives can be over crowded in the cells, because they will nurture each other. I hope that's true - they're getting to be about 2" high and all look pretty good. The cilantro has true leaves popping out and has been thinned to only one per peat pot.
Re: the fence around the Garden of Eatin' - not..nicht..nada...nil. There's no evidence of one ever having been there! We've been tossing the idea around in our heads and it may depend on how much chowing down those darn deer do
as to fence it or not. They have a 50 acre apple orchard to work on so maybe they won't mess with us.
You are so lucky - I know right this very moment you're loading your car up with all kinds of fun plants and equipment....I envy you. The budget here won't support such activities for the moment.
We are glad that you are going to have a very pleasantly warm weekend - it's about time! We look for you to be at your desk first thing Monday morning with all sorts of stories to tell!!
Elizabeth
I know that was a typo in your second to last paragraph - you meant to call my garden the "garden of EATIN'" didn't you?

To answer your question about my "nursery", I did some over seeding in some of the cells, but have been thinning each like a mad woman. There's really only one cell of basil I completely goofed on. Yes, it was a very painful time, but one has to move on, now doesn't one?
But seriously, I have read that chives can be over crowded in the cells, because they will nurture each other. I hope that's true - they're getting to be about 2" high and all look pretty good. The cilantro has true leaves popping out and has been thinned to only one per peat pot.
Re: the fence around the Garden of Eatin' - not..nicht..nada...nil. There's no evidence of one ever having been there! We've been tossing the idea around in our heads and it may depend on how much chowing down those darn deer do

You are so lucky - I know right this very moment you're loading your car up with all kinds of fun plants and equipment....I envy you. The budget here won't support such activities for the moment.
We are glad that you are going to have a very pleasantly warm weekend - it's about time! We look for you to be at your desk first thing Monday morning with all sorts of stories to tell!!

Elizabeth