Replacing Oven Ignitor


  #1  
Old 10-11-02, 07:43 PM
S
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Skillman, NJ
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Replacing Oven Ignitor

We have a GE XL44 Gas oven and have determined the ignitor needs to be replaced. We have the part. Any helpful tips on replacing it?
 
  #2  
Old 10-11-02, 08:32 PM
Sharp Advice's Avatar
Admin Emeritus
Join Date: Feb 1998
Location: The Shake and Bake State USA
Posts: 10,398
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Hello sgange and Welcome to our Do It Yourself Web Site and my Gas Appliances forum.

First unplug the stove. Remove the ovens lower panel and the flame spreader. The spreader is the metal plate attached to the top of the burner. It will have a wing nut securing it to the burner.

Loosen or remove the screws securing the glow ignitor to the burner. Follow the two wires attached to the ignitor. At the end farthest from the ignitor will be a wire pull apart quick disconect. Disconnect the coil at that point.

Install the new coil exactly as you found the existing coil. Replace each part in reverse order. Plug in the stove and turn it on. The oven burner now should work.

Be advise that some new replacement ignitors do not come with quick disconnect ends. In this case, it's okay to cut off the quick disconnect from the old ignitor and attach it to the new ignitor.

Simple clip off the wires several inches above the disconnect on the old ignitor, attach to the wires of the new ignitor and wire nut the two ends together.

Repeat the process to attach the other set of wires and wire nut them together. There is no postive nor negative {polarity} to be concerned with.

Glow ignitors are fragile & they break easily. Handle and install the new ignitor carefully. Glow ignitors are a non returnable and non refundable electric componet.

If you need further assistance, use the REPLY button.

Regards & Good Luck
TCB4U2B2B Company Enterprises
Gas Appliances Forum Moderator
Energy Conservation Consultant & Natural Gas Appliance Diagnostics Technician.
 
  #3  
Old 10-13-02, 12:47 PM
S
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Skillman, NJ
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Replaced Ignitor, still won

We have replaced the oven ignitor, thanks for your help.
However, now that it glows and gas starts, it does not fire up. Any clues?
 
  #4  
Old 10-13-02, 01:20 PM
Sharp Advice's Avatar
Admin Emeritus
Join Date: Feb 1998
Location: The Shake and Bake State USA
Posts: 10,398
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Hello: sgange

First. Please use the REPLY button to continue this topic. Doing so allows all concerned parties to more easily follow along and learn.

In reply to your question, is the gas on?
There are two locations to check.
The supply pipes shut-off valve must be on and the runaway valve installed on the oven must be on. The runaway valve will be located inside the appliance where the flex gasline connects to the appliance.
The problem could be the burner gas valve. This part is the part that the wires connect to and the burner is attached to. If the ignitor glows and the burner fails to lite, check all these other possible problem causes.

If you need further assistance, use the >Post A REPLY< button.

Regards & Good Luck
TCB4U2B2B Company Enterprises
Gas Appliances Forum Moderator
Energy Conservation Consultant & Natural Gas Appliance Diagnostics Technician.
 
  #5  
Old 10-13-02, 04:05 PM
S
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Skillman, NJ
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hello,

As I mentioned in my question, ...
the Gas is on.

The original problem was that the Oven Bake section was not turning on. (The upper broiler section works fine).
Per your instructions we diagnosed that the igniter for the lower (Bake) section was not turning on. It did not Glow nor get hot.

We replaced the igniter with a new one.
We can now see the igniter glow brightly and it can be
felt getting very hot.

Current symptoms and state of the applicance are as follows:

A. The upper burners all work fine - (No issue there)
B. The Broiler section works fine - (No issue there)
C. *** The Bake section does not work ***

A. The new igniter does Glow (Bake section - lower 1/2 of oven).
B. After several seconds with the igniter visibly on,
we hear a "click" from the Gas valve.
C. WE SMELL GAS IN THE OVEN,
BUT DO NOT SEE THE OVEN INGNITING.


1. The burners on the upper stove portion all work.
-> This tells me their is Gas going to the appliance.

2. You mentioned the "gas burner valve".
As I understand it, if this was defective it would prevent
gas from entering the oven area.
(bi-metal valve get's hot when the current from the igniter
passes through it in series).

-> Because we smell gas after the igniter has glowed
for a few seconds, and the "click" in the oven near the
valve is heard,.... this implies the "gas burner valve"
is doing it's job correctly.

Please let us know what other possible conditions / defects
could cause the oven flame not to light, when there is gas
coming from the burner and sufficient heat fromt he igniter.

Thanks,
S Gange
 
  #6  
Old 10-13-02, 06:32 PM
Sharp Advice's Avatar
Admin Emeritus
Join Date: Feb 1998
Location: The Shake and Bake State USA
Posts: 10,398
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Hello: S Gange

The plot thickings and we learn more details now. So the gas is turning on but not igniting. Whole new circumstance to deal with. Burner does emit gas which can be smelled because it does not ignite.

If the new replacement ignitor is correctly installed and properly positioned, the ignition ports or slot could very well be blocked or restricted.

Once the gas exists the gas valves orifice, it enters the entry of the burner tube, it's mixed with air and the fuel mixture travels to the ports. At this point a source of ignition is needed to ignite the fuel and start the burning.

Since the ignition source is only on one side or on top of the burner, there needs to be a path for the flames to ignite and or crossover to the opposite side of the burner. The ignition and crossover holes or slot provide that path.

Any substance blocking or restricting the slots and or ports on the burner, will cause the problem you described. To insure proper burner ignition and operation, cleaning rhese slots and ports is required.

Natural gas contains trace chemicals, which may leave behind residues, in the form of a white powdery substance. Cleaning the burner of this residue, etc. restores proper burner operation.

Burners made of iron deteriorate. The 'Rust' must be removed on these type burners to insure proper operations.

Burners made of aluminum may warp from the heat generated. Warping requires burner replacement if the ignition ports and or slots, depending upon which type the burner has, cannot be cleared. Very common problem with some aluminum burners and in some makes and models.

The current task now is to check the above possible and or potential problems and make the required corrections.

In many circumstances no parts are required. Simply a matter of clearing the restrictions to allow the flow of gas to come into contact with the ignition source.

This final list of solutions above should resolve all the appliances problems, if accurately completed and the described current condition is stated correctly.

READ the prior topics, within this forum, on the subjects of ovens and the replies offered. Prior postings and any or all the replies offered within them.

Almost all the required information needed pertaining to the many potential and or possible problems with an oven that has this very same condition has been covered several times.

Regards & Good Luck
Gas Appliances Forum Moderator
Tom_Bart........"Fast, Fair, Friendly & Highly Proficient"......
TCB4U2B2B.....Company Enterprises.
Energy Conservation Consulting Services & Gas Appliance Problem Diagnostics Technician Services.
 
  #7  
Old 10-14-02, 08:47 AM
S
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Skillman, NJ
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thank you for your help. It seems to be working now. We did not do anything further. We just tried turning it on a couple of times and eventually it started.

Your help much appreciated.

Do you also offer help on Gas fired fireplaces?
 
  #8  
Old 10-14-02, 12:16 PM
Sharp Advice's Avatar
Admin Emeritus
Join Date: Feb 1998
Location: The Shake and Bake State USA
Posts: 10,398
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Hello S.Gange

Gas fireplace help is available in this forum also.
This includes log liters and gas decorative logs.
Be happy to help as always.
And your question is?

Since your next question pertains to another gas appliance, start a new question. Do not reply to this one.

In that manner the fireplace appliance question will be a totally new topic, different from this one. Helps the other topic readers to learn from the communication exchange between us...

Thanks,
Tom
TCB4U2B2B....Company Enterprises.
Energy Conservation Consultant & Gas Appliances Diagnostic Service Technician.

Personal Quote:
Drive Safely. "The Life You Save, May Be Your Own."

Favorite Workplace Quotes:

"Of Course I Don't Look Busy...I Did It Right The First Time!"...

"Keep Smiling" Smiling creates minor workplace distractions. Smiling makes bosses and peers alike, wonder what in the &!#@#!$&$#@!% are you up to now!".....
 
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
 
Ask a Question
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: