Gas Flow Regulator thread conundrum


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Old 05-24-04, 02:06 PM
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I just bought at a scratch n dent place a dual fuel convection oven. It's the Kenmore Elite (Frigidaire GLCS376A series). I had to buy a new pressure regulator, but the manifold pipe is female as well as the outlet from the regulator. I've been to the hardware store, but the only thread that seems to fit the regulator on the manifold tube side is a compression thread. The flare thread adapters won't fit. What's up with that? I don't understand, and I am concerned about using a compression adapter on a flare female receptacle. What do I do? BTW, if needed, I can send diagrams of the burner assembly including the placement of the pressure regulator.

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Old 05-25-04, 11:47 AM
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Hello Jim. Welcome to my Gas Appliances topic and our Do-It-Yourself Web Site.

You mentioned having to buy a new appliance regulator.

Question is why?

Possibilities:

Was there no existing regulator already installed?
Kindly explain.

Are you converting to another fuel type?
Kindly explain.

Additional Question:
What fuel type do you already have in the home?
Propane or natural gas?
Kindly advise which type.

My Thoughts:

Why any hardware store would not have a short pipe (nipple) with standard pipe threads is unlnown and or beyond me.

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Which only leaves me to ponder the thought of what fuel type the appliance is already converted to. (????) (Orifices already installed)

Why the appliance came without the OEM appliance regulator? (???)

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Old 05-25-04, 02:12 PM
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Red face Good Questions!

OK...I actually called the manufacturer of the pressure regulator today (Maxitrol) & talked w/ tech support. It turns out that they did make this with a standard compression fitting on the side that connects to the manifold connector (which I think is quite odd).

The scratch-N-dent place said it was a natural gas oven (no propane). I didn't realize it was missing the pressure regulator until I downloaded the installation guide from the mfg. The store in back in Texas where I JUST moved from (now in Chicago area). WHY is the regulator missing?? Good question. I don't know, and neither does the store that sold the oven to me. I do know that many of their products are missing parts here and there, but that's why they sell 'em so cheap.

Thanks for the quick post!

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Old 05-25-04, 05:43 PM
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Hi: Jim

Okay. Now have just about enough info to provide you with some additional advice, suggestions, & tricks of the trade.

Take the make, model and serial numbers with you. Go to any local appliance parts store in your area. They are all listed in the phone book. Usually under the listings of appliances and or appliance parts.

They can look up the appliance on the CD they have. By doing so, they will either have an exact OEM replcement part or be able to advice you how to convert the female appliance manifold end to accept or adapt to the OEM pressure regulator.

The appliance must have a reg and must have the correct type and or correct one to operate as designed. Regs for appliances are not costly.

Nor are they difficult to install. Just look on the reg and notice the arrow. The arrow indicated the direction of gas flow out of the reg. That's the end that attaches to the gas manifold of the appliance.

No adjustments needed for nat gas.

Words of CAUTION:
DO NOT over tighten the reg onto the manifold nor over tigthen the flex connector adapter into the inlet side of the reg. Appliances reg are made of pot metal (cheapo). The housing crack very easily when tightened onto pipes or pipes are screwed into the regs.

DO NOT use pipe tape on the threads. Doing so causes expansion of the cheapo metal housings and causes cracks to appear in the reg casings.

Apply either pipe joint compound to the threads or plain motor oil or any type of oil to the threads to provide a lubricant to the threads.

YES. Have no doubts. Any type of oil is fine. Makes no difference which type of oil or any weight of oil. Just use any oil which is handy. It works. I have used oil for many years and the gas utility requires only oil on the threads.

Several times ran out of oil. I used customers salad oil in pinches. YES! salad oil works too.... Never had any problems with salad oil or olive oil either for that matter....none...zero...haha....they both work equally as well.

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Any type of oil works fine...
 
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Old 05-26-04, 06:29 AM
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Talking great!

Thanks so much for the info!

UPDATE: WOOHOO! Got the gas range working last night and the wife cooked a scrambled egg sandwich for dinner for me. She's tickled to finally have a burner again. NOW all I have to do is use the 3 day weekend to run a 240V line to the kitchen to get the electric convection oven working and then it'll ALL be done.

BTW.. I did test for leaks....tight as a drum!
 
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Hi: Jim

Glad to learn of the "Good News."...2X's (Twice)

1)
The lady of the house being "HAPPY."...

2)
No leaks.

Good Luck this 3 day wekend with the electrical wiring & connections.
That's why we have 3 day weekends...fix stuff and....

....to "Catch-up" on the "Honey Do's"...
 
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Old 05-27-04, 05:58 AM
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Wink sho' nuff

Ain't it the truth!

If that was the only thing on my honey do list, I'd me a happy man, but alas, 'tis not to be.

Have a great 3 day'er yourself.

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