oil burner flame appearance


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Old 12-20-06, 08:16 AM
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oil burner flame appearance

When looking through the inspection window on an oil burner, what should the flame look like? The reason I ask is that we just got a new furnace installed and the tech said that this was a new style burner and the flame will not look the same as my old one did. It used to be that I could look in the inspection door and see the flame shooting in the firebox and then disappearng before it went up the flue. Now when I open the door, it looks like the sun. A ball of yellow fire, with no visible flame. To me that seems misadjusted, but the tech says no. There is no visible smoke coming out of the chimney. I have a Thermodynamics boiler with a Becket afg gun 1.25 nozzle. I would like your opinion on this and if possible a picture or diagram. With the price of heating oil these days, I would like to think that I am running this as efficiently as possible. Thanks.
 
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Flame

More important would be the combustion readings he took when he set the burner up. Did you go from an old burner to one with a newer retention head? The flame probably would look different and burn much hotter. Some techs are using the newer electronic analyzers and leave a print out of the readings. Did he say what the efficiency was? The tech usually looks at the net stack temp, CO2 readings, flame and a smoke test at a minimum to set a burner up properly. The newer analyzers give CO and O readings, but it still comes down to skill, knowledge and experience. It's really kind of hard and unfair to second guess what he did or didn't do. You'd need a smoke pump to determine whether there is any smoke or not. If you feel uncomfortable, call him on the phone and express your concerns in a polite manner, he should be happy to educate a consumer who is genuinely interested in learning how his system is working.

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Old 12-20-06, 12:15 PM
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Like said If he didnt use a combustion test kit on the unit .You for sure dont know just what or how good the burner is set at.
 
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Old 12-20-06, 09:41 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I guess this company is working in the stone age, because they did not have any special test equipment when they set this up. It was just eyeballed and that is why I had the question in the first place. I guess I will get in touch with my oil company and express my concerns. Either that or maybe I should be looking for a new vendor. From what was said in the replies I can gather that the flame may look different than the flame from a 20 year old gun. Merry Christmas to all and thanks again.
 
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wet kit?

Did the guy do a smoke reading on the flue, or take any measurements using a "Wetkit" (glass instrument with purplish liquid?)? That would give him the CO2 readings and smoke to go buy. A really good tech can do a lot with a wetkit. But, if they just eyeballed it and didn't insert anything in the flue pipe I'd be p****d. There should be a 1/4" hole in the flue pipe near the boiler for making measurements. In fact, it is code to have this on new installs in some localities. I feel the same way about my boiler, and often question what is being done by the tech working on it. Most are fair, hardworking guys though.

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