Payne vs Goodman furnaces

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Payne vs Goodman furnaces

Do those in the HVAC trade have an opinion on Goodman vs Payne brands for natural gas furnace and AC? It looks like I can get 2 stage heating and ECM blower on the Goodman for the same price as a single stage for the Payne. I'm removing a Conquest 90 that has done well for 20 years.
 
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In general there is not a lot of difference from brand to brand. As I have said on this forum more times than I care to count, the "best" system is whatever brand the best installer is using at the time. It's 95% installation & 5% equipment.
 
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If you care about american jobs, buy the goodman, payne is made in mexico or will be in under a year.

the goodman gmvc96 should be a good product internally, but the cabinet may be a little thin.

goodman parts will be cheaper than payne which is just low end carrier.

to fully benefit from 2-stage/variable speed you must get it sized right and it has to be controlled by a 2-stage thermostat. otherwise, you won't get long cycles on low, just constant low for 12 minutes or less, high for a short time, then off. The 2-stage stat only brings on high fire when absolutely necessary and can down-stage to low. without it, the furnace just times out, runs full blast for the rest of the cycle.
 
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The quality of the installation matters a lot more then the name on the box.
Proper load calculations, equipment selection and installation quality are what your looking for here.
 
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The one big advantage of Payne and the other Carrier brands is that Carrier makes by far the largest number of furnaces.

That means that if a repairman can fix ANYTHING, he is probably going to be able to fix a Payne, since he sees those so often.

Also, for the same reason, he's much more likely to carry parts to repair a Payne furnace than that of other manufacturers.

That might mean that when you need a part on a Friday afternoon on a payne furnace, you get it fixed then and there, rather than waiting until Monday when parts can be purchased for another furnace.
 
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parts availability will vary by area. Goodman is also common so parts shouldn't be an issue.

carrier parts are extremely expensive. a ventor motor for a 2-stage carrier online is $400 at cost, if the dealer fixes it count on paying 600 to 800 for that.
 
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Thanks for your input, pros.
 
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