Williams wall heater


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Old 01-27-21, 01:51 PM
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Williams wall heater

I have a Williams wall heater in a cabin I own. It starts fine. heats up just fine. Once the thermostat trips at the set temp, the heater does not come back on unless I shut it down and restart the process. The thermostat clicks as it should to come back on. have replaced the overtemp switch and the thermocouple.
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Old 01-27-21, 06:16 PM
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Welcome to the forums.

A model number would be very helpful as most of the Williams wall heaters don't use a thermocouple.
They do use a thermopile or pilot generator. Pilot flame size is very important.

Is your unit like the picture ?
If not.... post a picture of yours...... How-to-insert-pictures.

 
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Old 01-28-21, 08:47 AM
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No, it looks like this drawing.
 
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Old 01-28-21, 09:04 AM
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That's a pilot generator or thermopile. It's a millivolt device and produces 500-700mv when heated.
If relies heavily on a proper pilot to generate enough voltage to keep the pilot valve open and to operate the main valve. You're going to need a voltmeter to troubleshoot the problem.
 

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Can do. Not back there till next week. what should i look for/
 
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With thermostat OFF..... check from TH/TP to TP. This is the unloaded voltage level. (500-600mv)

With thermostat calling for heat.... check from TH/TP to TP. This is the loaded voltage level. (350mv)

Now check from TH/TP to TH. This measurement should match the previous measurement.
It will typically be lower. Subtract this measurement from the previous one. What is left is what you are losing thru your thermostat and wiring. If you have a loaded voltage of 350mv and a final measurement of 150mv.... you're losing 200mv thru the wiring.

These are DC voltage measurements under 1 volt.
 
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The measurements came in at 400, 250 and 160. I took apart and cleaned the Pilot assembly. I did notice that there are two Honeywell thermostats that look alike, only one is for mv heaters. I got one and it was different from the one on the wall. everything works as advertised now.
thank you for the lesson.
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Old 02-10-21, 04:23 PM
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Good job.

Your thermopile is a little low. Could be aging or pilot.
The last two numbers should be even.

250mv is what the t'pile is producing under load.
160mv is what is actually getting to the gas valve. The difference is loss.
Can be caused by loose/corroded connections in the thermostat line.
 
 

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