My Rheem propane unit stopped igniting the gas during start-up due to the HSI not heating up during the HSI energize cycle. System would go through the following cycles and repeat 3 times before locking out the system.
(1) 30 second pre-purge cycle with draft inducer running
(2) 34 second HSI energize cycle, draft inducer still running
(3) 9 second propane release, draft inducer still running
Original HSI was a Norton 201N part number 62-22868-02 that measured OL for resistance. I first replaced it with a Supco IG418 which I later found out cross-references to a Norton 271N HSI and not the 201N. The Supco IG418 measured 75 ohms resistance and the furnace would then progress through the three cycles above followed by shutdown of draft inducer and startup of the circulating blower as if the propane had been ignited even though the HSI still did not heat up and no flame was produced,
I got the following measurements from hot & neutral wires at the HSI plug to ground when not connected and when connected...
I then got a Duralight HSI Part Number 62-22868-93 which is supposed to be a direct replacement for my original HSI. The resistance on this HSI measures 118.9 ohms. Same thing is happening with this HSI...furnace goes through the three cycles listed above followed by shutdown of draft inducer and startup of the circulating air blower as if the propane has been ignited, but the HSI never heats up and the propane does not ignite.
The VAC measurements from hot & neutral to ground at the HSI plug when the Duralight HSI is connected are shown below. Also shown below are the amps going through the wiring to the HSI with the Duralight plug which is only 0.19 amps during the HSI energize cycle (same as the pre-purge cycle).
I have verified that the air validation switch is closing during the pre-purge cycle and remains closed during the HSI energize cycle and propane release cycle. I also have two flame rollover switches mounted above and below my three firing tubes and I have verified they are closed during all three cycles.
The circulating blower starts with either HSI connected without any flame regardless of whether or not the flame sensor is connected to the PC board.
The Power and OK lights remain solid green throughout the cycles listed above with no blinking to indicate any type of error.
The board has a burn mark between where the HSI and draft inducer power plugs into the board and a relay. I don't know what the relay controls, but I am hearing relay clicks from somewhere on the board before/after each cycle listed above. See picture of burn mark below.
(1) Any idea what the cause would be for the HSI to not to heat up? I assume 0.19 amps is not sufficient.
(2) Any idea why the VAC readings are different for the two HSIs during the 30 second pre-purge cycle?
You need to measure 120v directly at the igniter with it plugged in and heating.
You don't care about voltage measurement at any other time.
The board knows how long to allow the igniter to heat before opening the gas valve.
With that igniter it's approx 20 seconds.
I'm experiencing this like others. I cleaned the flame sensor, changed the filter, cleaned the evaporator coil, it was dirty, and still no change. Fires up, runs a few minutes, burners shut off, on the third try, it will relight, and it will do this for three cycles until it locks out. It's a Goodman GPG 10 single package gas-electric h & c unit, vintage 2005, the whole shebangs sits outside in the weather. Any chance it's my thermostat? I know it's a precision control, and last year I dropped it from about shoulder height, but it ran the AC all summer........thanks for your advice.
Hi All, I got a nice older small compact rheem "conquest 80" 50k hot air furnace that was set up for horizontal flow. everything seems OK, green "ok" light comes on on the board. Model GKDA50-E3N
but when it fires up, the blue flames only last 5-10 seconds and the board commands a shut down (I hear the click). The main blower doesnt even start to run because it doesnt even get warm enough.
According to the diagnostic flow chart on the unit if burner lights but does not stay on,, it says to
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[*]check the power polarity. (it only ran when hooked up one way, so not that)
[*]check the ground continuity (the green wire is grounded at the outlet)
[*]check the insulation on ignitor leads (no idea but looks ok)
[*]if checks are ok, replace the IIBC (is that the control board?)
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this unit looks in good shape especially the heat exchanger so I'd like to fix it. any ideas?
Are those three round silver sensors (with the red wires) they connect in series with a hot air temp sensor in the plenum. I think they are my flame detectors but why three? (There is NO traditional flame sensor in the fire path, other than the ignitor, which I guess could also be the flame sensor).
thanks!
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