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Old 12-21-04, 08:36 AM
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Happy Holidays to ALL here at DIY!!!

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T'was the night before Christmas,
And all through the house,
Everyone was sleeping, even the mouse.
When all of a sudden, there appeared some light smoke,
Then the smoke alarm sounded and everyone woke
Off in the distance, a fire began to grow
When all of a sudden, it started to show,
Then what to my wondering eyes did appear?
A group of firefighters, in full turnout gear!
While fighting the fire, I heard one exclaim with a shout
"THIS FAMILY HAD AN ESCAPE PLAN , EVERYONE IS OUT!"
As they drove away, they were all full of cheer,
Knowing that fire prevention works every day of the year!

Happy Holidays to ALL!!!!
FATKID66

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Old 12-21-04, 09:25 AM
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Nice poem. And actually something people should really do. Have a escape plan that is.
 
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Old 12-21-04, 10:35 AM
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fatkid: is it true that you shouldn't ever stay on a floor higher than the 5th floor of a hotel, because that's the limit to how high up firemen can reach?
 
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Old 12-21-04, 10:46 AM
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Depends on the cities equipment I would think. Ours goes up 7 or 8 stories I believe.
 
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Old 12-21-04, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Annette
fatkid: is it true that you shouldn't ever stay on a floor higher than the 5th floor of a hotel, because that's the limit to how high up firemen can reach?
Firemen were over floor 100 at the WTC on 9/11, Annette. Obviously, not on ladders, but they can go anywhere anyone else can go. I assume you mean on ladders, though, and in that case, Mattison is right, it depends on equipment of the ladder trucks.

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Old 12-21-04, 11:14 AM
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yeah, i meant via the ladders on the trucks......
 
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Old 12-22-04, 06:20 AM
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WOW!!!

Great question!!!

The easy and quick answer is never stay on a floor higher than you would want to walk/crawl down in your pj's thru smoke and confusion, after just being awoken by the fire alarm, with FF's passing you on their way in!!

With buildings being sprinklered nowadays, the possibility of an out of control fire in a building where the sprinks are functioning is rare. THEY ARE VERY EFFECTIVE!!!! You shouldn't make floor number a consideration when choosing a room, your comfort should be!! As long as the place is sprinklered, no worries!! The other most important thing for yourself and especially any children with you is, knowing at least 2 ways out. This goes for hotels, restaraunts, movietheaters, malls etc, heck, even your own home, but i know you all have escape plans at home, right!! . And as I always tell my wife, "If you are at work(or anywhere for that matter), and the fire alarm goes off, I know it happens alot and can be a nuisance, it might be a drill, even if you dont see smoke, LEAVE THE BUILDING!!!"

Mattison and World builder are both right!! The reach of a departments apparatus changes by city, and and there are also mutual aid agreements with adjacent towns. We have here, a 9 story production facility with various flammables, and other hazmats being pumped thru it and used around the clock. We have no tower/ladder on our department ...budget and such, dont get me started!

The building is fully sprinklered(as are most hotels), and we have a mutual aid agreement with 2 adjacent cities for use of their tower/ladders should we need them...that is if they are not in use at the time!!

WTC was a special case where the involved floors were soaked with burning flammable liquid which made getting down past them impossible, even the rated walls in the fire stairs were destroyed. Most people on the floors just below the fire floors self-evacuated and survived. Many of the FF's who lost their lives were on the higher floors doing search & rescue.

As long as we learn from tragedies like this, those that perished didn't die in vain.

I hope this long winded response answers your question!!
 
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Old 12-22-04, 07:36 AM
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Unhappy yes, i'm a worry wart!!!

i guess i've been paranoid ever since i heard (not too long ago) about a lot of people dying in a hotel fire that didn't have sprinklers. and that was right after we'd just stayed in a hotel with our 2 toddlers, and i never even thought about asking or looking around to see if there were sprinklers there!!! so the next time after that, when we went on a trip, before i even made the hotel reservations, i asked if the hotel had sprinklers. and i asked how many floors were in the building! (we stayed on the 3rd floor.)

our house is a sort of split-level style, and the bedrooms are all on the upper floor (over the garage). our room is on the back of the house, so if i had to jump out our window, i'd have our backyard lawn to fall on. and the lot slopes, so my jump would only be maybe 10 feet. but both the kids' bedrooms are on the front of the house, and the jump from their windows would have you landing the full 2 stories down and on the concrete driveway! so we've bought one of those fire escape rope ladder things for just such an occasion, but i'm just not sure that in a real panic fire situation i'd be able to (A) find the damn thing in my closet or (B) be able to get a window open, hook the thing in the window & (C) actually use it without simply plummeting to the driveway!!! is that something we should practice? i'm not sure we could even practice it without someone getting injured! maybe if we had an old mattress we could lay down on the driveway......

what do you think???
 
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Old 12-22-04, 08:09 AM
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Practicing an escape plan, and replacing smoke detector batteries every time you change your clocks for daylight savings are the best things you could do. Ive often thought of waiting till the kids fall asleep, and then putting them thru their paces. They are 5 and 6 and of perfect age to at least make an escape thru their primary(thru the house) route. Also, a meeting place to all go to after the escape for accountability purposes. Reinforce with small kids NOT to go back in after toys, pets etc. Maybe at least practicing finding and installing the ladder is a good idea, just so that the first time you do it isnt during an emergency!!!

We also have a split-lvl, Cat and I are in front, with a small roof, and the kids are over a patio roof, but they are too small to go out that way yet, I feel ,so i told them if the door feels hot with the back of your hand, get the window open, and scream your head off, throw something thru the window if you have to. Im not saying to scare the be-jeepers out of them, but if we prepare our kids for the unexpected, if it ever does happen, they are better equiped to handle and deal with the situation.

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Old 12-22-04, 08:23 AM
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Wink thanks, notreallyfatkid!

that's a good idea. maybe we'll practice getting the ladder out of the box & hang it out from our bedroom window. (it'll probably never fit back in the box!!!) i might even try climbing down it from our window, since it's not that high.

yep, we'll do it........right after the freezing cold weather's past us!
 
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Old 12-22-04, 08:33 AM
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Thats a good idea!!!

BTW: thanks, notreallyfatkid!
I have my winter weight on...
 
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Old 12-22-04, 08:50 PM
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Yes, Happy holidays to all. :wmann3: Thanks for posting!

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Old 12-23-04, 05:37 PM
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fatkid66,

Thank you for such an eloquent presentation of such valuable information! These are some really good Holiday posts! I certainly learned some things I didn't know!




Merry Christmas to all!
 
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Interesting thing training kids about fire drills. We bought a "chain escape ladder" and put it under our child's bed. Many years ago, actually about 15 years ago.

We had an escape plan, and actually rehearsed it without dropping the ladder out of his second floor bedroom. We have a central security system, including smoke and heat detectors. Well, it malfunctioned, and our son, then 7, opened his bedroom window, left his bedroom door closed, and used the escape ladder that was under his bed.

I reset the alarm, and was ready to go back to bed, and decided to look in on him. Well, obviously he was not there. Which led Dad to a short-term panic until I noticed the chain ladder hanging in his window. He had almost pulled the window shut, because the firemen at the local fire company had said that would reduce the air available for combustion, and he remembered that.

To make a long story shorter, our son was outside sitting on the front porch crying, wondering where Mom, Dad, and the good Firemen were.

Training is worth the effort, and they remember more than you give them credit for.

Take the time, it could save their life and yours.

Happy Holidays,
 
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Old 12-23-04, 07:30 PM
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Good story there! I totaly agree about that with kids. When it is important, they will remember. But they do ignore us alot don't they?



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