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Old 08-13-08, 11:01 AM
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Forum: Odd Loading Problem

The problem occurs in the electrical forum, not sure about the others. First couple of times I click on posts they load normally. But by the third time I click a post, any post, they hang and don't load in a reasonable time. I have to hit the escape key to kill it then click again. Second or third time loads normally. I have been reading the forum for a long time and this just started a few days ago. The action is consistent, happening every time I read the forum.

At first I thought it was on my end, maybe cache. Emptying cache didn't help. So I thought maybe a browser problem, Seamonkey, so I tried Firefox, same problem. So I tried forums other then DIY.com. They worked normally. So it seems it is the forums not my software causing the problems. Anyone else noticed the problem?
 

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I'm also having a long "hang time" on each post. My guess is a bunch of ads downloading on each query. Mr. Moderator, is it us or the site?
 
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Old 08-13-08, 05:33 PM
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My guess was ads too but I didn't want to bias the replies before someone confirmed the problem. Wonder if they are from a different server and posts are set to load after the ads.

Edit when I originally tried to post this reply I let it hang for almost ten minutes before I gave up and hit escape. Took three tries.
 
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Me, too. It started two or three days ago, about the time someone posted about a lot of spam making it through. It seems to be on all forum topics. Sometimes I have to click three or four times before it goes through.

I know it is not my computer because all the forums (and other sites) I interact with are just fine.
 
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One of the tech guys from the site is working on it - he believes it may be a server problem.
 
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Thanks for the update, Mitch.
 
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Glad they are working on it. Quite frustrating. But it does make you wait 180 seconds between posts, right? Probably built in. Not the ads, as I have adblock clean my slate and the site runs so much better.
 
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Old 08-15-08, 10:19 PM
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It is now affecting the reply function also. After writing a reply it hangs when you click the submit button.
 
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But it does make you wait 180 seconds between posts, right?
Yes. That's one of the protections against spammers. It has nothing to do with reading posts, however.
 
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The longer it lasts the more frustrating it is. Hopefully they will be able to get to it after the weekend.
 
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Old 08-17-08, 12:25 PM
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Rick, you missed the point. I know what the 180 seconds is for, although I don't have to like it. It is the delay, and sometimes failure for the site to load an answer to a query, or even the loading of a page that is getting frustrating. I'm not going to sit here and wait 10 minutes for a reply to post. Sorry, my time is worth alot more than that. Need to get someone on that problem fast to keep your readership alive. People can ask questions, but if there is no one to answer them, you do no good. And Ray2047, waiting "after the weekend" isn't an option. This has been going on for a week, and upper echelon moderators have known about it. Should have been solved in 24 hours.
Man that felt good!!!
 
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Hmm...well, no computer guy, but mine has been working fine after that one day of problems.

Maybe it's clear cache, run yer Ad and Spy programs, and disk cleanup time for everyone.

And, yes, I am using IE.
 
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I only had a problem for a few hours on the first day and since then it's only been a tad slow, but not too bad and no other problems. Some of the mods are having problems and some are not, so it's only affecting some.
I know they're working on it, but it is the weekend.
 
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AH-ha!! Its the signatures...See, it's Mod payback time!!!

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I hope no one is waiting ten minutes to get this thing to load.

What I find works is if you are looking (not replying) and it is not loading is to move the cursor infinitesimally and reclick. If you are replying then first stop the data transfer and reclick. Sometimes it takes three or four tries but it is sure a lot better than waiting several minutes.
 
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Maybe it's clear cache, run yer Ad and Spy programs, and disk cleanup time for everyone
As I stated in my first post cache was my first thought because it only occurs after the first one or two posts but clearing cache doesn't help and since I use Linux ad and spyware won't run on my system. No such thing as disk cleanup or registry cleanup on Linux. either. Also no signature and to repeat the problem only occurs in these forums. And finally there were no changes to my system before this started and before a couple of weeks ago the forum worked fine.

I must say this is beginning to remind me of the BBcode problem where they took months to fix it giving answers that seemed more BS then truth.
 
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Old 08-17-08, 11:34 PM
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LOL...sort of. I was going to edit my post but it hung and couldn't break the connection with the escape key this time to retry. I was going to add a reply to Furd who suggested retrying . I was going to write that is what I do but in true irony it just hung and I couldn't kill the attempt of "Edit", neither escape key or moving the cursor worked.
 
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My Two Cents:

I'm not experiencing any problems discussed here presently, nor have I been experiencing any problems in the recent past. Nor may the problems have anything or much to do with the site.

May be or can be all the connections that have to be made between a computer, the local phone company that carries the signal, your location between the site, local phone line traffic, phone company lines and or routers, etc. etc. etc.

Lots of variables.

There are many connections between ones computer and the servers of this site. Also the time of day when phone traffic is or may be the busiest on the phone lines that are used for DSL or dial up ISP service.

An ISP connection also carries the load. Their routers may be running slow as a result of traffic demands, the routers serving of it's cache, up dating, virus protections or any of the routers for all the carriers may be the cause....

Thus far no such problems am I having...
 
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Old 08-18-08, 09:08 AM
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Sharp Advice, It is good you have no problems but obviously others do and only on this site and only recently. The causes you describe if on the users end should cause problems with other sites. I don't have these problems at other sites. I'm on broadband and it seems stable. I have checked my speed and it is normal. I'm not sure posts saying there is no problem are helpful. It may cause the forum not to try to fix it. Do those of us with problems just give up and stop coming to a malfunctioning, frustrating to use site?
 
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First off....I come here daily and though a little slow compared to other forums, same as it's always been for me.


Just being curious I ran 4 tracerts to here and on every one hop 20 timed out. No idea what that means.

Microsoft(R) Windows DOS
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C:\DOCUME~1\ROBERT>tracert doityourself.com

Tracing route to doityourself.com [67.201.16.53]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

(hops 1-4 removed by me)

4 27 ms 29 ms 29 ms tbr1.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.2.222]
5 25 ms 26 ms 26 ms ggr2.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.123.6.33]
6 25 ms 24 ms 30 ms 192.205.33.186
7 37 ms 38 ms 32 ms ae-32-54.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.101.126]

8 26 ms 30 ms 37 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.132.41]

9 24 ms 25 ms 25 ms 4.69.140.190
10 58 ms 67 ms 59 ms ae-3.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.61]
11 70 ms 70 ms 72 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.37]
12 88 ms 75 ms 87 ms ae-3.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.132.57]
13 75 ms 85 ms 75 ms ae-92-92.csw4.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.134.222]

14 87 ms 76 ms 84 ms ae-93-93.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.134.237]

15 94 ms 90 ms 91 ms ae-2.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.132.10]
16 101 ms 89 ms 89 ms ae-63-63.csw1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.3
4]
17 84 ms 89 ms 83 ms ae-1-69.edge3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.20.9]

18 86 ms 90 ms 88 ms xe2-0.cr01.lax01.mzima.net [4.71.136.2]
19 94 ms 85 ms 89 ms xe0-0.cr01.lax06.mzima.net [216.193.255.98]
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 99 ms 86 ms 87 ms doityourself.com [67.201.16.53]

Trace complete.


Again, I have no idea what this means, maybe somebody does.


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It's not a "here we go again" situation. We collectively have been experiencing slow site transitions, slow replies, and it is not happening on any other site I visit. So to blame the ISP, "variables" of our computers, etc. is bordering on irresponsible. There is a problem with the site and it needs to be addressed. Don't you think it odd we all began posting about having the same issues from different parts of the country? Don't cop out on us. Help us to help others.
 
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I've always looked at it as..."It's free...how much am I gonna complain?"

I know, some won't agree.
 
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Originally Posted by mitch17 View Post
One of the tech guys from the site is working on it - he believes it may be a server problem.
It's pretty obvious that the server is the problem. After 2 weeks it should have been fixed.
 
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It's pretty obvious that the server is the problem. After 2 weeks it should have been fixed.
Why? Have you paid them and they didn't meet your deadline? It's obviously a bigger task than fixing a single computer.
 
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Why? Have you paid them and they didn't meet your deadline? It's obviously a bigger task than fixing a single computer.
I think that is the problem. The problem is beyond the capability of normal maintainers and the owners/operators don't want (or can't afford) to have it fixed.
 
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It is now affecting the reply function also. After writing a reply it hangs when you click the submit button.
Yup Im having the same issue here. Very frustrating.
 
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Hmmm I'm not positive where everyone is, but seems like the left coast is doing ok, and the right coast is having problems.

Now it's a battle between the tech's of the site and the service provider. Or whatever the correct technical terms are.

Sounds like my Navy days...the RM's say...."my end is good" the DS's said... "everything here is fine"....so the ET's wind up tracing all sorts of crapola, then it magically goes away...after everyone re-sets their equipment. Of course that would mean a complete shutdown of all the unaffected circuits also.
 
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Shadeladie, what difference does it make whether or not we paid for the site? The site was offered by "someone", we "chose" to give our time and talents to keep it running and answering questions of DIY people all over the country (world). What has anyone paid for our detailed services, expertise and advice? Don't even go there.
We have a certain obligation to make the site run smoothly, and when we bring it to the attention of the higher-ups, the only answer we get is "I'm not having a problem, it must be on your end", that's unprofessional. Gosh, that felt even better!
 
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Thank you chandler. Well said.

This site is so slow, it's close to useless. Replies constantly hang, and you wind up clicking twice. Next thing you know, you posted twice. (at least it did that to me). Then we don't have access to delete our own posts. Geesh.
 
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Guys..(and Ladies)..if it's only happening in some parts of the country (and apparently that is the case), whose fault or responsibility is it?

I'm no kind of Guru (anymore), but are they expected to track down every waystation on the 'net, and get them to reset whatever may have caused it?

I don't have a clue where they are located or what the problem may be, but I'd suggest those that ARE having problems take a break if its causing them so much heartache. Thats what I did when my ISP was doing an upgrade and we were down (slow) for 3-4 days.

No criticism, ok...I know it's frustrating when it's something you enjoy..(I know I do)..and it's not working right for you.

I have learned much here, and expect to continue doing so.
 
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Umm Chandler, I was just being a bit sarcastic when I said that because I didn't like the "it should have been fixed by now" remark.
Also, both Mitch17 and I posted that the problem is being worked on, so it was addressed.
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Well if you need locations I'm in between on the Gulf coast.
 
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Well that theory just got shot in the *ss, huh. Maybe we'll get another one soon.
 
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What theory Chandler? Mine? Thats what theories are all about,right? LOL Might be this or that, until proved wrong or right. Well, to clarify..I was talking about east of the big muddy or thereabouts ( I'm sure servers feed close to the line). Anyone wayyyy west of that have any ongoing problems?
 
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San Jose, LA, LAX, and doityourself.com give me the highest numbers on tracert. All over 100ms.
 
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Thank you PTBs! The board was down last night and aparently they were able to fix the problem during that time. No hangs today.
 
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Hey Ray...what time was it down? I did hit the hay early,, so no clue.

btw what are PTB's?
 
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Hey Ray...what time was it down? I did hit the hay early,, so no clue.

btw what are PTB's?
Don't remember exactly bu sometime between 0000 and 0200 CDST.

PTB is short for "Powers That Be", the people in charge.
 
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Ahhhh ok one I don't remember seeing. thx
 
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Well, the site seems a bit snappier today, but the highest tracert time is still doityourself.com @ 97ms.
 
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