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The US Government has developed a sense of humor: Recovery.Gov

Since this will cost everyone for generations to come a whole lot of money it may be worth while to familiarize yourself with the source: Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
 
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Old 01-31-09, 08:05 AM
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The whitehouse.gov site has succumbed to criticism since the inauguration. Critics claim that it's not what is being posted on the website, but, rather, what is not.

Keeping up with the media circus and reporting on political leaders has always been more humorous than the funny pages. Why stay up late to watch Leno and Letterman, when all you have to do is watch CNN or Fox News reporting on the political scene. BTW, laughing is good for your health!
 
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Old 01-31-09, 08:24 AM
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While we can't be "political" on the forum, it is interesting to stand on the outside looking in.
The government is bailing out the top echelon of banks, car makers, and others, in hopes it will help stimulate spending.
I took minimal economics in college a long time ago, and even then the only way to stimulate an economy was from the BOTTOM up. So you bail out GM. They build cars. Who can afford to buy them? No one. GM goes belly up anyway.
Of the $819,000,000,000, take the 250,000,000 people in the US and that would be roughly $400,000 per person. Give it to the people, tax it at 50%. You put money back in the tax rolls, the smart people pay off their mortgages, buy a new car and have disposable income to buy things...big things. The economy will grow, the car makers can't keep up with the demand. They make money and don't need "bailouts".
But I'm just a nail driver, what do I know?
 
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Old 01-31-09, 03:54 PM
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Didn't the left crucify Reagan [and still do] every chance they had on the subject of trickle down economics?????

P.S. Check your numbers, Chandler; got too many zeros in a couple of places.
 
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Can't be political? Monica, quick, hum the anthem. Jose can you see? Have you met my wife Johnny? If it's not broke, tax it. You have a debt to society, fund it.

Chandler, you're just so.... sensible! Interesting? Congress bowered the current act (this drama is not over yet by far). It's right out of the Corporate and IMF play book. Using the INTERNET as venue to build a sense of credibility is egotistical and conceited, but then it's not off target.
 
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Of the $819,000,000,000, take the 250,000,000 people in the US and that would be roughly $400,000 per person.
Your math is a bit off I think..... That would be more like $3,276 per person.
 
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Chandler, you're just so.... sensible!
And, of course, absolutely no future in politics. Beer 4U2
 
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Got a bumper sticker on my car that hits the subject on the head "I LOVE my country, but FEAR my government".
 
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Old 02-01-09, 02:23 PM
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Heck, I was working off a calculator that only has 7 spaces, what do you expect??? Still, that $4000 would work better from the bottom up than the top down, no matter how bad the math is.
No, my wife continues to urge me to run for mayor of our small town, but I just don't have time. Maybe coronor....the qualifying fee is only $25.
 
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Hang on to that calculator. It will come in handy for computing compound interest and transfers of obligation over simple principle distrusted equally among able and willing participants.

If it was as simple as taking around $ 4000.00 from everyone for every trillion of principle owed we could be on the plus side in a few years or sooner. $ 800,000,000,000 at 10% “simple interest” (if it can be borrowed at that rate) for ten years is another $ 800,000,000,000. Oh, in the mean time we're paying interest (skip the principle) on the National Debt also. I like your first number, $400,000 per person. It sounds more realistic.
 
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Old 02-02-09, 04:16 AM
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Even though my figures were flawed, the main premise still remains....start your stimulus from the bottom. You can't sell products the people can't afford to buy. The more money the people have, the more they will spend (or invest) and, consequently, the more products you will have to make to keep up with the demand.
 
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If I remember correctly, the figures I saw on the evening news last week, the national debt equals $36,000 per person. The bail outs are supposed to add approx $3,300. I suppose we could all work for free for a yr and knock that debt out....... but we'd have to reverse the child labor laws and kick the seniors out of their rocking chairs

It's always mystified me why we as individuals, have to live with in our means or face the consequences but it's "ok" for the gov't to pile more debt on top of debt.
 
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Old 02-02-09, 03:07 PM
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I agree with you Mark, but it's about time for these corporations, banks, etc to get their act together so us taxpayers do not have to bail them out.
 
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I agree with the bottom up premise under the debit and credit monetary system. I am an advocate of scrapping the system and replacing it with a tiered system of valuation that would eliminate many of the monitory ills encountered throughout history. I'm aware that it is an idealist system, and thus non-workable in world dominated by two dimensionals (98 percent of the populace). I disregarded the math err, and still do, because I think the answer holds more truth for those who will pay down the debt for the next seventy or so years than a simplistic view of principal owed (39000 * .1 * 70 = 273000 – more realistically 1/3 paying: 117000 *.1 *70 = 819000 or 409500 if paid in thirty five years).



We must live within our means, because we're shiftless no counts. If had you forgotten to pay your taxes you might be consider for a presidential cabinet position. Since not paying taxes is no biggie, Congress should declare a tax holiday. Can't depend on us shiftless no counts anyway.

Ah, I know why Congress would declare a tax holiday: they're afraid they might have a lapse of memory, and forget to reinstate taxation (the deepest fear of a Democrat).
 
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Old 02-03-09, 10:55 AM
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If Mr. Obama REALLY wanted to fix something in Washington he would put the IRS out of business in favor of a national sales tax. Never happen in my lifetime, of course.
 
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Old 02-03-09, 12:22 PM
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TG, hold your breath. I smell REAL change. Too many wheels are falling off the wagon for it to go too far.
Not sure where this analogy came from so bear with my math, again.
They say a million dollars in one thousand dollar bills will be about 4 1/2" tall ($1000 x 1000). So a trillion dollars in thousand dollar bills would be about 71 miles high. ($1,000,000 x 1,000,000)
4.5 inches=.375 feet x 1,000,000 / 5280 = 71 miles.
Again, unless my math sucks, a trillion is a bunch of money!
 
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Old 02-03-09, 07:14 PM
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So, what does it cost to create a minimum wage job in America?

$ 800, 000, 000, 000 / 3,000,000 = $ 266,666.66 (Includes federal, state, and local tax; finance charge; underwriting, handling, and management fees; political contributions and bribes).

IRS freedom: spouse gains foreign citizenship, & renounces US citizenship (ends US income tax obligation). Spouse registers a foreign corp. doing business in the USA. Spouse, if female, gains business advantage. You vacuum the Treasury (for once) and live happily ever after. Beats knee pads or a rug. Of course, spouse eventually divorces sucker.
 
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ok, us pop is just about 306 mil. that would work out to closer to $2700/person.

The premise of saving the automakers is a bottom up approach. If the automakers fail, it will add to the unemployment of the bottom level of financial society which will reduce the amount of money available to be infused into the economy. They are not doing it to actually save the companies as much as it is to save the jobs of all the autoworkers and all the feeder companies. If those jobs are lost, unemployment figures would increase drastically. Costs to government subsidies such as TANF, medicaid, and any other assistance program would skyrocket causing a bigger drain on government funds.

Bottom line; they may not be giving the money directly to the worker level people but by assisting the companies to stay alive, they are in effect providing millions of jobs that could possibly disappear. Like they say; a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. replacement jobs continue to be lower pay than what has left any given area. That results in less disposable cash so fewer "extras" are purchased, further depressing the economy.

has anybody checked the national debt lately?

U. S. National Debt Clock

your families share is over $152,000.
 
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Old 02-04-09, 04:31 AM
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Can I get a government bail-out grant to cover that?

Lots of companies face financial difficulties and have to do one reorganization or other to stay in business usually without government assistance.

"The biggest problem when you open a can of worms is that the only way to get them back in is to use a bigger can." So where do you draw the line?????
 
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Are you trying to tell us something about the O bomb it plan(?) or is this just another example of loosely applied facts.
$ 152,000 * 306,000,000 = $ 46, 512, 000, 000, 000.

What he said, AND the government can save vital machine industries by building super cargo ships (like the one now coming to Mexico carrying 15,000 40ft ISO containers crossing from China in four days, since we paid Mexico to dredge it's ports instead of LA, or Seattle) and ISO garbage scows. We should export our garbage to China, where they will burn it, and then we will choke on the smoke when it hits the jet stream.
 
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By directly bailing out the car makers, you are "saving" the most expensive jobs in the country. The car makers can make cars all they want, and pay their high priced, heavily benefited employees from the bailout money. But if the rest of the country can't afford to buy them, where does that leave the car makers and their workers? Busted, with alot of new cars on lots everywhere. From what we have seen, historically, the car makers can't make a profit, so giving them additional dollars doesn't make alot of sense.
And, maybe it isn't new cars we need. For the majority of my acquaintances, we are foregoing such purchases and opting for things of necessity. Times are hard. You'd be better off trying to sell ice cream to eskimos, because it's the same theory.
 
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2000;1516203]Are you trying to tell us something about the O bomb it plan(?) or is this just another example of loosely applied facts.
$ 152,000 * 306,000,000 = $ 46, 512, 000, 000, 000.
I merely repeated what the site I went to stated. Notice I said, "your families share". Not your individual share. Not sure what the average family is but it used to be 4.3 people.

What he said, AND the government can save vital machine industries by building super cargo ships (like the one now coming to Mexico carrying 15,000 40ft ISO containers crossing from China in four days, since we paid Mexico to dredge it's ports instead of LA, or Seattle) and ISO garbage scows. We should export our garbage to China, where they will burn it, and then we will choke on the smoke when it hits the jet stream.
that means those ships can run around 75 miles per hour. WOW are they some fast freighters!!
 
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Oh, so now you're bringing my dog into it. He's family too. Well, I told Ramrod that he now owes the country fifty grand for using it as a toilet. His response, as he was rolling all over the floor: “ARF, arf, arf, arf, arf, arf, arf, arf, ARF, arf, arf, arf, arf, arf, arf, arf, arf, ARF, arf, arf, arf, arf”.

You've created a new vocation: Canine Comedian. Pay: Kibble & Bits.

If I remember correctly, the first super cargo ship was built in Sweden. They're not only fast, but have a very deep draft (why ports need to be dredged, and why you, the US taxpayer, clandestinely paid for the dredging of a Mexican port), and they can carry enough goods to sustain war or peace. Like it or not, the North American Union is just around the corner. Todays events are just a single act in this drama, and they will be repeated more frequently with every population increase, and with the rise of the Hispanic in America. Afterward comes Socialistic Capitalism, then Communism. You may think we have money troubles, but you ain't seen nothing yet.
 
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a trillion is a bunch of money!
There was something on these news last night about how we get desensitized about money.

They said you could spend a MILLION $ a day since the day Jesus was born, and still not have spent a TRILLION dollars. Just insane!
 
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Boy...I'd sure like to try though. Course I'm not in the Government...so I'll prob never get the chance.
 

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There was something on these news last night about how we get desensitized about money.

They said you could spend a MILLION $ a day since the day Jesus was born, and still not have spent a TRILLION dollars. Just insane!
Whoaaaaaaa Now that puts in it some perspective. Holy cow.
 
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Mark, do the math. Wow, it's only been 733,000 days since the birth of Christ. A million a day wouldn't even meet the proposed "stimulus"plan. Stimulate this!
 
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If I remember correctly, the first super cargo ship was built in Sweden. They're not only fast, but have a very deep draft (why ports need to be dredged, and why you, the US taxpayer, clandestinely paid for the dredging of a Mexican port), and they can carry enough goods to sustain war or peace. Like it or not, the North American Union is just around the corner. Todays events are just a single act in this drama, and they will be repeated more frequently with every population increase, and with the rise of the Hispanic in America. Afterward comes Socialistic Capitalism, then Communism. You may think we have money troubles, but you ain't seen nothing yet.

the ships are still not cruising at 78 mph (65 knots).

here is an article from 2007 listing the emma maersk as the largest freighter in the world. Rated speed of 31 mph. The compare that to the typical freighters speed of 18-20 mph and state the additional speed will reduce the transpacific run by 4 days.Digital Inspiration - The Tech Guide: Worlds Largest Cargo Ship(Pics)

apparently the draft is 81 feet fully loaded.

here is a link about the engine in the ship:

The Most Powerful Diesel Engine in the World

I couldn't find a listing of port depths around the world but the few I could find are considerable shallower than what this ship requires.

as to a north American union;

Americans are just to damn arrogant and egocentric to allow such a union as well as all the legal barricades to such a union. Just so you know how impossible a NAU is, here is a link to the Amero coins. (whoops, I wasn't supposed to let this leak. Just forget I said anything about an Amero coin)

UNA Amero Pattern Coins
 
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Old 02-06-09, 04:16 AM
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Nice coins, but I think we should annex Canada before Mexico.
 
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I stand corrected. By the way, good job. (Port data can be found via World Port Index).

The emotional exit is disappointing.

Census Bureau data predicts that Hispanics will be the dominate ethnicity in America by 2050. Caucasians (white sector) will be a minority, and African Americans will be still be in third place. Our Politicians have a vested interest in continuing an unrestricted influx, and John Q. Citizen has, or should have, a vested interest in opposition.

Side jokes (“Political Humor”) For sixty plus years Congress practiced replacement therapy, because stem cell research was banned. Hispanics will assume a debt and tax burden that many of them have not benefited from (a sucker is born every minute). Those that become Citizens (and they will) will carry this burden where ever they go (adding insult to injury).

Women and minorities are the electoral power base in America (supported by Census Bureau records). Past, present, and future, this is, and will be, the case. Women complain about inequity, but the demise of America can be traced electorally. And as much as women hate being manipulated, the pandered and catering continues.

Congressional political power enacts and/or abolishes laws daily.

Conducive circumstances will propel the North American Union forward. Socialist Capitalism (as it exists in Mexico) may precede, or will follow, Unionization. Communism is the logical extension of over population given a Socialist mindset. Gives “for the children” a whole new meaning.
 
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I enjoy reading your perspective 2000. Not that I agree with it but you do make good points.
 
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If by some miracle the Libertarian Party made it into power, there would be a national sales tax, the IRS would be as dead as the dodo, we'd be out of Iraq in 6 months and a bunch of other great things.
 
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The problem with political parties is they turn into drunken brawls.
 
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Couldn't have said it better, nightowlpunk.
 
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If anyone wishes to learn more about the Libertarian Party, their website is lp.org. They will not try to sell you anything, the products site is lpstuff.com. They have some great stickers and t-shirts. The customer service there is great especially after I had a problem with ordering a t-shirt form them (website issue that is fixed now).
 
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Tinkle down socialism

When the government spends money to generate more indebtedness then hands you the bill. (The underlying problems – well, everyone will wake up and fly right).


Libertarians

The losers. I WON, I WON, I WON!
 
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Well, it's here. The Senate has rewritten an epic comic tragedy.

Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

It's balanced. It expands government, and it has tax credits for those able and willing to spend money.

Your part: you pay the bill.

Whoosh! Do you feel the change?
 
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At least the Libertarians would have REDUCED federal spending by 50% or more. Honestly, with the way these politicians spend money, I wouldn't be surprised if their families don't let them get within 50 yards of the family checkbook.
 
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Good joke: reduce federal spending and contact government while population increases unchecked. Counterintuitive irony.
 
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Along with doing something REAL about illegal immigration, such as kicking them outta here and better security instead of a pat on the back like recent presidents like Clinton and Bush.
 
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