The Dictator of New York

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Old 06-03-12, 07:45 AM
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The Dictator of New York

Mayor Micheal Bloomberg has proposed a ban that would prevent restaurants in NYC from selling soft drinks larger than 16 oz. Bloomberg blames the large sodas for obesity.

What's next? A ban on sugar in your coffee or cream cheese on your bagel? Whatever happened to personal freedom, including the freedom to be a fatty if that is how you're inclined. How long before the food police are standing at the end of the grocery checkout counter to make sure you don't buy something that's not approved.

God spare us the do gooders that gain power and feel that it's their duty to protect us from ourselves.
 
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Old 06-03-12, 09:27 AM
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Needless to say, unfortunately, both ends of the political spectrum are often infected with the disease.
 
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Old 06-03-12, 11:14 AM
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I could almost buy into the trans-fat ban because its hidden.(kind of) The soda restriction is useless political grandstanding.
 
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Old 06-03-12, 11:54 AM
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you can still get a large pop but only if its diet so you can't go to 7-11 and get a double gulp unless its diet. How will that work. Will the clerk stand over you to make sure you put diet in the cup and not regular or will they do a taste test to make sure you put diet in it?
 
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Old 06-03-12, 11:57 AM
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It's not soda, it's not transfats, it's not the flavorful edge fat on a good porterhouse......it's Bloomberg. You can't legislate stupid and you can't legislate people into doing what they should for health purposes. Aren't there more important things that need attention in NYC??? Maybe not. I'll stand down.
 
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Larry - To continue your analogy it's not just Bloomberg and it's not political. It's all those smarter than thou people that make it their life's work to take care of us little people since we're obviously incapable of caring for ourselves.
 
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Actually, 7-11 won't be affected because the ban does not apply to grocery stores and 7-11 is considered one.

The fatties will just buy 2 sodas anyway. It's one of the dumbest ideas ever.
 
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What Wayne said.
 
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Old 06-03-12, 02:39 PM
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Simple math.

Buy 1 16oz soda, get one free. 16 + 16 = 32oz. Done.
 
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Old 06-03-12, 03:46 PM
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7-11 is not affected by the ban cause it does not apply to grocery-stores.
Not yet at least. Also if you go into a gas station and buy a regular pop you must show ID to prove your over 15. if your under 15 you can't by a regular pop at a gas station etc. But whats to stop a grown up from buying it for them? You know he also banned cookies and snacks from being purchased with a food stamp EBT card.
 
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Last time I checked, we were supposed to be a Democracy, where we have free will. More and more, this country seems to be turning socialist/communist.

Sorry for talking about politics on the forum.
 
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Some but certainly not all Democrats these days have the mistaken notion that they know better than you do and want to control every aspect of your life. Democrats used to be for Democracy and the little guy who is a Democrat certainly still is but these power hungry egomaniacs are the ones that are the real problem. The Republicans are not all Lilly white either and some of them are power hungry too but to a somewhat lesser degree in my own opinion. I agree though where has democracy gone you can't even have prayer services at some functions now in the military because it might offend someone. I also apologize for talking politics on the forum.
 
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The problem is not political in the sense of one party dominating legislation of personal good over any other party. The problem is really the result of decades of indoctrination via public schooling that everyone is equally entitled to what anyone might have.

We've raised a fine crop of non-thinkers in the last 70-plus years.
 
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At least there, they are up front and blunt about their "looking out for our better good" restrictions.
Here in Ontario (Canada), when they merged the Provincial tax with the Goods and Services tax, it was noted that the price of some liquors (beer too?) would actually be cheaper.
They actually raised the price of the liquors higher than the pre-HST prices because the lower prices on alcohol could promote alcoholism.

So if I was to say lose my job, I couldn't drink my sorrows away that evening because I couldn't afford the liquor to do so.
 
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In our last election we finally broke the stranglehold the state had on the liquor industry. Since the demise of Prohibition our state government had an absolute monopoly on the importation (from anywhere) and wholesale sales of distilled spirits. This made booze in Washington one of the highest costs in the country. People were rejoicing that finally we would have lower costs and increased availability.

Well, we got the availability thing, liquor is now sold in the grocery stores (was only in state run liquor stores) but the cost has gone UP, not down due to imposition of still more taxes. It doesn't bother me personally because I don't imbibe anymore for several reasons but the drinkers in my state sure got a rude awakening.

Yes, the opposition to the change in the laws was mostly from people/organizations that were quite clear that they felt the common people needed to be coddled and cared for because we are too stupid to do it for ourselves.
 
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Furd,
We have the exact same thing you had. Province controled liquor stores.
I'm not a heavy drinker, but I do like a beer or two on the weekend.

This looking out for us because we can't look after ourselves is really getting to me. Look at the 60's. The teens from that generation had all sorts of crazy stuff going on and they turned out ok for the most part.
 
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Old 06-04-12, 02:25 PM
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Well, we got the availability thing, liquor is now sold in the grocery stores (was only in state run liquor stores) but the cost has gone UP, not down due to imposition of still more taxes.
The state always gets its money!

It always makes me laugh when someone claims one political party to better than or not as bad as the other. They both do exactly the same thing for the the side of the argument they have laid claim on.
 
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Remember when there were dry counties half the places you went? It was always my understanding that the bootleggers were some the most influential ones pushing to keep the county dry.

There was a time where I knew who the bootleggers were, now I couldn't say for sure which stores sell beer/liquor..... but I probably drank my lifetime allotment in my first 20 yrs as an adult
 
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