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Back last summer when I had to change doctors, my new doc [actually a nurse practitioner] claimed my blood pressure was too high and I had to take meds for it. My old doc had always said it was borderline but acceptable. My BP was just under 140/90. Today it was 137/88 and they said that was fine. So how come it was way too high 6 months ago and now the relatively same number is fine ??

I did finally win the argument over my cholesterol medicine. About 10 yrs ago they put me on a strong cholesterol medication claiming my levels were way out of sight. That was the first time I was ever told my cholesterol was high. I wonder if they mixed up my blood work results with someone else ?? Anyway that doctor and the next said I needed to keep taking that dosage ... until I went to the hospital [unrelated] and they said the dosage was way too high and cut it in half and for my doctor to see if it could be cut further .... which she refused, so I started breaking the pills in half and my next blood test came out great. Still couldn't get them to reduce it further until today will find out in 6 months if I was right
 
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Old 01-12-15, 08:05 AM
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Time get another doctor or second opinion. If you asked for another test then they should've given it. But you may have had to pay.

IMHO...If you feel good and have no particular problems then leave well enough alone. I'm sure if I went to a doctor to have my BP checked, it would read high and he would suggest medication. Boloney! I have cut down big time on salt over 40 years ago, but on occasion my taste for salt is over whelming. So once in a while I'll make a vat of popcorn and butter and salt the crap out of it, eat several hand fulls and be done. Then my sedation is satisfied and I'm good for months. I( believe body cravings are a sign that your body needs something. So long as it does not become addictive or directly harmful, give in.
 
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I believe body cravings are a sign that your body needs something. So long as it does not become addictive or directly harmful, give in.
I agree, I also cut way back on salt 30 or so yrs ago although occasionally I get a strong craving for something salty. I was more than satisfied with my old doctor ... but he went and died at age 59 Now I get to see 4 doctors on a somewhat regular basis with the 2 that are specialists commanding a higher copay

I have a blood test every year. The problem wasn't with the test but getting them to reduce the meds. I know I take a lot of pills but that doesn't mean I want to take more than I need!
 
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Some of this is opinion. Used to be that more than 140/90 was considered high blood pressure while 120/80 was considered 'normal.' There is a convention now that anything over 120/80 is high but not everyone is on board with that idea.
 
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And remember, doctors call their jobs "practice". It would be nice to have one that wasn't just practicing on me.
 
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I understand where the 'line' is but how does the same doc claim your BP is too high and then 6 months later claim that almost the same BP is normal Sometimes I think they all have stock in the pharmaceutical companies

It would be nice to have one that wasn't just practicing on me.
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Old 01-12-15, 09:26 AM
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I've mentioned before that my daughter is a veterinary doctor. She has on several occasions not follow human doctors diagnosis and do her own research in order to doctor herself to good health. She is a big believer in diet then meds when dispensing advise to clients pets. And now that she is into acupuncture she is seeing "miracle" results on pets that were on the way to the "death shot".

Maybe we more melding of the Eastern philosophy with the Western style medicine. We rely way too much on meds and surgery.
 
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I like my doctor that I have now but a couple of years ago the cholesterol medicine I was on nearly killed me. It was Atorvastatin and it gave me chest pains that made me feel like I was having a heart attack. I knew it wasn't a heart attack though it was the medicine and I took myself off of the medication immediately. Not long afterward I went back to the doctor and he did an ekg and said my heart was fine. Since then I have done a great deal of research on statins and most of them are quite dangerous. Also since then I have done more research on my medications.

As far as doctors are concerned it is best to research them and check their qualifications and then question every medication they give you and read up about the medication online. Those summaries they give you at the pharmacy are just that a summary and they don't give you the full picture.
 
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Someone told me once that taking Lipitor does nothing to increase your life expectancy because one side effect is suicidal depression and the increased death rate from that offset the decreased risk of heart attack death.

Don't know whether that's actually true but I think it stands to point out how we all need to do our own research when a new drug is prescribed to make sure it's the right choice.
 
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mitch17 I don't doubt you but that is new information to me. I know those statins can do all kinds of bad things to you including causing muscle weakness among many things. Now I find out suicide too, I sure am glad I don't take that anymore. My elderly mom still takes it and I wish she didn't as it seems to make her forgetful which I hear is another side effect. Also a link to Alzheimers disease but I can't convince her to stop.
 
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Statins give me horrible muscle aches and I refuse to use them. My total cholesterol is always below 200 but every doctor I have seen wants me on drugs to lower my cholesterol. Of course my HDL (good cholesterol) is always low and my LDL is always high as well as having high triglycerides.

My current doctor insists that I have gout because (a) I was prescribed a drug that lowers uric acid in the blood before I started seeing her and (b) my uric acid levels are a bit higher than average. The podiatrist I saw (highly regarded) flat out stated it was unlikely I had gout without being aware of it. The drug I take was originally prescribed to reduce the chances of uric acid kidney and bladder stones.

Every doctor I have seen in the last twenty years has either strongly suggested I have obstructive sleep apnea or else has stated as fact that I have it and wanted me to use a CPAP. I finally found a doctor (the one I see tomorrow) that admitted the possibility of my problem being a result of my swollen nasal passages and post nasal drip. He had me do a home sleep study and the results as reported by a technician at the sleep center was that I definitely had the obstructive sleep apnea AND I needed the CPAP. This tech knows nothing about my other problems but it doesn't stop him from playing doctor.

Several months ago I complained to my primary care doctor about always being cold and having no energy. She ordered the thyroid blood tests and the results came back within the average range although a bit on the low side. A couple of months later the endocrinologist I was seeing decided to put me on thyroid medication, starting out at a very low dosage. After a month or so she raised it to a bit higher dosage. Now my blood work comes back with the levels at the higher end of average but I still feel cold a lot of the time and still have no energy. Worst part is that I have to take the silly pill at least 30 minutes before eating anything, including my other pills and that makes it a bit harder to remember.

Oh, in case I didn't mention it in the other thread the cardiologist called me to tell me that the nuclear stress testing on my heart was absolutely normal.
 
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And we welcome everyone to middle/old age. Some of us have weathered it pretty well...and then just start falling apart.

I'm having way more issues since I had my knee surgery than I ever had before. The antibiotics for the eye problems were the worst. I quit those half way through.

I'm younger than most of you here I think, but the bod is just wearing out. Live fast and etc etc.
 
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Worst part is that I have to take the silly pill at least 30 minutes before eating anything, including my other pills and that makes it a bit harder to remember
I know what you mean I have a lot of stomach problems and take 1 pill first thing every morning and have to wait an hour before I can eat anything. Since that pill isn't good enough, I have to take 2 horse pills in the evening BUT I have to take them on an empty stomach - basically no food for 2 hrs or so before I take them or 1 hour afterwards. The worst part is they do not cure the problems, only make them less severe.
 
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Some of us have been rode hard and put up wet. I feel fortunate at my age to take zero meds, even with two total knees and a total shoulder. We just have to help each other out, that's all.
 
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