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Old 12-12-15, 05:56 AM
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New Job....

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Well I have a new job and am kind of out of residential plumbing for the most part. I don't have to deal with homeowners... yay!!! LOL

I got a brand new 2015 truck and threader and my sole job is to tap the gas meters and run a line to residential generators..

So I may not be as active as I once was and I may be a weekend warrior here. Ill try to do the best I can here to help with any and all plumbing related questions..

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Congratulations on the new job Mike! Having a company truck can be nice - it's kind of like a raise all by itself
 
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Congrats on the new van. That's what I need.
 
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Congratulations Mike the new van and job are great. I do hope you can still be on the forum as often as your plumbing advice has always been valuable. I don't know what I would have done if I hadn't had your advice about that shower with the grab bars you told me about. Too bad big Orange doesn't sell it anymore as it is a great shower for the elderly.
 
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Sweet little van, even sweeter job. Congratulations.
 
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Old 12-12-15, 07:59 AM
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This looks like it could be a pretty sweet gig.
I'll try to help out in finish plumbing but not much good at venting and the technical aspects.
 
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Old 12-12-15, 10:14 AM
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Congrats on the new job! I need a van like as I am working out of an E250 Ford van and I am 6'5" tall. Not a lot of head room.
 
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A street ell on fuel gas? Is that allowable these days? I remember when street ells, bushings and close nipples were prohibited for both gas and oil fuel piping.
 
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Old 12-12-15, 11:13 AM
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Bushing are not allowed here in NJ...

I dont typically use st ells but the guy that showed me how the company does these or whants them done uses them and passes inspection.. So I do what they tell me,.. LOL

But know that you brought it up I am going to check the gas code now..
 
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Old 12-12-15, 11:33 AM
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All I could find is this in the NJ FGC


404.3 Piping in concealed locations.
Portions of a piping sys-
tem installed in concealed locations shall not have unions, tub-
ing fittings, right and left couplings, bushings, compression
couplings and swing joints made by combinations of fittings


And this for cast iron pipe only..

5. Cast-iron fittings:
5.1. Flanges shall be permitted.
5.2. Bushings shall not be used.
5.3. Fittings shall not be used in systems contain
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ing flammable gas-air mixtures.
5.4. Fittings in sizes 4 inches (102 mm) and larger
shall not be used indoors except where ap
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proved.


I cant find nothing else regarding that joel..

Have a look see ..

New Jersey Fuel Gas Code
 
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I trust you, Mike. As I recall, this issue came up a few years back and upon checking the National Fuel Gas Code, I found that the prohibition against street ells and maybe even close nipples had been removed. I still won't use them, or bushings, in fuel work, gas or oil. I'm just old fashioned that way.
 
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Old 12-13-15, 07:05 AM
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Is all the iron piping necessary that close to the origin? Granted we have only propane and the gas company runs yellow copper from tank to generator. Is it different with NG? Or could they run flex from the meter origin to the application?
 
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Old 12-13-15, 08:32 AM
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Is all the iron piping necessary that close to the origin? Granted we have only propane and the gas company runs yellow copper from tank to generator. Is it different with NG? Or could they run flex from the meter origin to the application?
Its 1/2 psi so you need larger piping then propane. Cant run poly or CSST outside. Poly is underground and CSST in the home only..

Must hard pipe in NJ with Galv pipe outdoors..

If the gen was farther off the house then I would dig and install poly with 2 risers...
 
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Old 12-13-15, 08:53 AM
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I found that the prohibition against street ells and maybe even close nipples had been removed
This is what I think also, regarding the street ells. Just a guess, but I would think the prohibition was lifted due to the increased quality in castings compared to many years ago.

Concerns were poorly cast or poorly tapered/loose threads, a weak point at the neck where male threads start, and even sand holes from the casting.
 
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Mike, just wondering do they give you a jobs per day quota? Tried that one time and quit after a week. Couldn't do a good job and meet quota.

Street ells: Once installed water lines in a bathroom. Bigbox was close so used their (Asian) street els and other fittings. None would hold water. The street els were the worst. You could hand tighten to within one thread of the last thread.
 
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Old 12-13-15, 12:53 PM
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One gen a day ....,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
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Old 12-13-15, 01:36 PM
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One gen a day
Oh man that is a sweet job.
 
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I had a recent experience with a 13KW Generac set up on a Home I had For Sale because the Seller was delinquent on his Mortgage. It was about 100' from the house (and the propane tank) sitting on a nice concrete pad.

As he approached foreclosure and eviction, he claimed that the Generac had been struck by lightning and was destroyed so he removed it. Surprisingly, the Stainless Steel Double Door Fridge and the Jenn-Aire Range also became defective in that same time period and had flown the coop before the Bank gained possession.

Any chance of that Generac's destruction by lightning being legit ?

The Bank didn't question the disappearance . . . . they were just glad he vacated without more of a fuss.
 
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Old 12-29-15, 07:19 PM
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some of the harder jobs I did.. Still having trouble with the final conections to the gen without havong too much of a swing joint..

Caught a cold today as I was soaking wet and muddy working in the trench on the last pics..

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Old 12-29-15, 07:22 PM
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Nice work. Very neat. Are you required to paint the exposed gas lines gray like around here ?
 
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Old 12-29-15, 07:24 PM
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only have to paint the threads with zinc paint in NJ
 
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