Rain gutter for shed?
#1
05-25-09, 01:48 AM
Rain gutter for shed?
I have a shed I had HD build. I am landscaping one side and have the shod stripped away. This weekend we had a nice normal rain shower and i can see the rain dripping off the roof is going to be a minor problem. So I am thinking on installing a rain gutter. But for a normal 12'X12' shed, I think the normal size of rain gutter might look a tad out of place. Has anyone seen a smaller scale rain gutter or know how i could make something nice looking?
Gilly
Gilly
#3
05-25-09, 04:32 PM
I just went out and measured. It has a drip edge on the top, but from under the edge to the bottom of the facsia board I measure 3.5 inches.
One thing I didn't conside though, is that the fascia isn't at a right angle to the ground, it is at a right angle to the roof, so it cants in at the bottom at whatever pitch the roof is. So that's a sticking point. The only possible solution i see is in the pamphlets i picked up at Menards today. The comany they use for the aluminum gutters is "Spectra", they list a roof mounted bracket. Actually it says for use when there is NO fascia board. I DO have one but like I say it angles in.
My idea is instead of a downspout, I was gong to just cap both ends and drill a bunch of holes in the bottom of the gutter trough, maybe around 1/8" holes. For a 12 by 12 shed, probably a couple dozen holes per side should handle everythning but the storm of the century I would think.
Any info on mobile home gutter, that might actually look better than 5".
Gilly
One thing I didn't conside though, is that the fascia isn't at a right angle to the ground, it is at a right angle to the roof, so it cants in at the bottom at whatever pitch the roof is. So that's a sticking point. The only possible solution i see is in the pamphlets i picked up at Menards today. The comany they use for the aluminum gutters is "Spectra", they list a roof mounted bracket. Actually it says for use when there is NO fascia board. I DO have one but like I say it angles in.
My idea is instead of a downspout, I was gong to just cap both ends and drill a bunch of holes in the bottom of the gutter trough, maybe around 1/8" holes. For a 12 by 12 shed, probably a couple dozen holes per side should handle everythning but the storm of the century I would think.
Any info on mobile home gutter, that might actually look better than 5".
Gilly
#4
05-25-09, 06:14 PM
I think I found the answer myself. My idea is to go ahead and use 5" gutter and i need angled fascia wedges to get them level. Not sure right now where I go to find those wedges.
Gilly
Gilly
#5
05-26-09, 10:37 AM
Not certain of your needs without seeing the project, but could you D.Y.I. some wood shims. cut to the correct angle, or take some metal "L" brackets and bend them to achieve the correct angle?
#6
05-26-09, 02:45 PM
I don't understand why you think you need to shim the gutter. Install it on the facia and let it be tipped. Every house on my street has rafter tails that are square cut, not plumb cut, so all of the gutters are tipped. Nobody's ever had a problem with one.
Drilling holes in the bottom of the gutter is a bad idea. The gutter will rust if it's tin. Bore a hole and seal a drop outlet into the hole and attach a downspout to it.
Drilling holes in the bottom of the gutter is a bad idea. The gutter will rust if it's tin. Bore a hole and seal a drop outlet into the hole and attach a downspout to it.
#7
05-26-09, 03:12 PM
Can't hardly believe they wouldn't shim the gutters to square them. Would your neighbors think you're a creep if you took some photos of their gutters? I don't think I've ever seen gutters mounted like this, maybe a California thing?
I am planning on using aluminum gutters, so could corrode, but probably take awhile.
I wouldn't mind plastic, but only comes in shorter lengths, I think 10' sections. Aluminum I can get in 16', the shed is only a 12 by 12, so i can go seamless with aluminum
Downspouts, I had sort of thought of that, but on this small shed I guess it would be overkill. Sometimes I think the whole idea is overkill, but I already am seeing the dripline in the dirt where I am going to be planting, plus on the other side of the shed I am trying to level it where the foundation (slab) was poured, and I know I'll have the same thing there. The idea with the holes, is that I will then have many small drops instead of Niagra Falls over the drip rail when it rains hard. That's the idea anyways. I know they have these "downspout-less" gutter systems, I think it'll end up being a po'boy version of that: RainbreakerZ: A new gutterless, no downspout, self-clean raingutter solution. - Home
(that stuff is like $25 for 5ft!). There is another one out there called rainhandler, I can't get the website to come up right now Gutters, Rain Gutters, Rain Gutters, Copper Gutters, Gutter Guards, Rainhandler Gutters
OH plus for getting this to work right, I also think I'll need to level the gutters with these wedges.
Found an online source, am about tired of calling and asking everyone, so might order them this evening (waiting for one local guy to call back yet).
I also think these gutter shields might help disperse the water just a bit more, probably worth the few extra buck to put those in too (plus there is a tree near the shed)
Gilly
I am planning on using aluminum gutters, so could corrode, but probably take awhile.
I wouldn't mind plastic, but only comes in shorter lengths, I think 10' sections. Aluminum I can get in 16', the shed is only a 12 by 12, so i can go seamless with aluminum
Downspouts, I had sort of thought of that, but on this small shed I guess it would be overkill. Sometimes I think the whole idea is overkill, but I already am seeing the dripline in the dirt where I am going to be planting, plus on the other side of the shed I am trying to level it where the foundation (slab) was poured, and I know I'll have the same thing there. The idea with the holes, is that I will then have many small drops instead of Niagra Falls over the drip rail when it rains hard. That's the idea anyways. I know they have these "downspout-less" gutter systems, I think it'll end up being a po'boy version of that: RainbreakerZ: A new gutterless, no downspout, self-clean raingutter solution. - Home
(that stuff is like $25 for 5ft!). There is another one out there called rainhandler, I can't get the website to come up right now Gutters, Rain Gutters, Rain Gutters, Copper Gutters, Gutter Guards, Rainhandler Gutters
OH plus for getting this to work right, I also think I'll need to level the gutters with these wedges.
Found an online source, am about tired of calling and asking everyone, so might order them this evening (waiting for one local guy to call back yet).
I also think these gutter shields might help disperse the water just a bit more, probably worth the few extra buck to put those in too (plus there is a tree near the shed)
Gilly
#8
05-26-09, 03:38 PM
GillyWI,
The houses around here are 50+ years old. They have 4/12 roofs. I'm pretty sure your shed has about that for a roof pitch. Attaching the gutters to the sloped facia will work fine. If you want to plumb them, then remove the facia board and sister 2X4 blocks onto the tails of the shed with an angle cut on the end of the that will plumb the gutter.
Either plumb or angled, you want to attach a downspout to the gutter to eliminate the drip line in the landscaping.
And the gutter and the downspout won't look out of place.
PM me an e-mail address and I'll send pictures to you.
Lefty
The houses around here are 50+ years old. They have 4/12 roofs. I'm pretty sure your shed has about that for a roof pitch. Attaching the gutters to the sloped facia will work fine. If you want to plumb them, then remove the facia board and sister 2X4 blocks onto the tails of the shed with an angle cut on the end of the that will plumb the gutter.
Either plumb or angled, you want to attach a downspout to the gutter to eliminate the drip line in the landscaping.
And the gutter and the downspout won't look out of place.
PM me an e-mail address and I'll send pictures to you.
Lefty
