Can I Hang Wild Pig Meat from this Carport Beam? (Pictures)

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Old 04-26-14, 11:26 AM
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Can I Hang Wild Pig Meat from this Carport Beam? (Pictures)

Hello all. I need somewhere to hang 300 LB of meat.

I want to hang the meat from this existing beam:

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The beam measures 5" x 15 3/4" x 22'

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I want to connect this hardware loop.

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Are two 3/8" x 6" lag screws sufficient?

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The goal is to hang a 300 LB of meat.
 
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Old 04-26-14, 11:38 AM
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Welcome to the forums.

I'd say you have the right idea there. I think I'd keep the hook closer to one of the mounting poles.
I'd also use a little wax on the threads to assist in the installation.
 
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PJmax, thanks for the welcome.

After posting this, and doing some more research, I'm starting to think that beam is quite strong. Would I be pushing my luck to hang, say, four of those loops, each holding 300 LBs (1,200 LBs total)?

If that would be pushing my luck, I could add a 4"x4" held in place by L brackets-- would that help? If so, would that even be necessary?

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By the way, thanks for the tip to use wax. I think wax should help getting the lag screws all the way in!
 
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Old 04-26-14, 12:23 PM
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A 4x4 in the middle would be a good addition to the main beam. Make sure it's on a solid footing.

The worst thing that could happen is to get the lags in half way and get stuck or snap.

It looks like your carport is freestanding. How are the four supports connected to the beams ?
 
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Why is a solid footing important? Are you indicating that a non-solid footing could cause the lag screws on the L-Brackets to get stuck or snap?

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I do not know the technical terminology, but, the existing metal supports are "set in concrete" in the existing concrete slab. How can I give the proposed 4" x 4" a solid footing without jack-hammering the existing concrete slab?

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To answer your question, these photos show how the existing supports are connected to the beams (ignore the measuring the tape in these).

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Paraffin, a candle, or even bar soap on the threads works well. Sometimes soap is best cause it doesn't flake so much.
 
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Pete was stating the support for the mid post should be solid. You don't want it sagging. Nothing to do with the lags. Soap on the threads is a good idea. You started with 300 lbs of meat and have graduated to 1200 lbs. Are you hanging to age after salt cure or field dressing them?
 
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Old 04-26-14, 01:31 PM
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You don't need that much at the bottom of the 4x4. A couple of Simpson L brackets, screwed to the post and anchored into the slab with Tapcon screws or similar is all you would need. Some similar T brackets to attach it to the beam.
 
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I've run into what sounds like an experienced hunter! Chandler, this whole endeavor is to give me and the buddies a place to do field dressing. If the weather is cold enough the meat could be left hanging there overnight.

Haha yes I did go from 300 LBs to 1,200. What started as a few lag bolts and some hardware I already had laying around, turned into a project involving a 4" x 4" as an additional support, etc., but I guess that's just the nature of home improvement jobs, eh?

As a side note I'm going to connect a winch to something, but I'll sort that part out on my own.

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The purpose of this thread is just to make sure I'm not overloading either (1) the beam or (2) the lag screws. The rest I can sort out on my own.
 
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Hung a few and cooked a few in pits. Never go back to store bought once you experience the real thing.
No higher than you will be hanging them, the winch may be overkill. It would have to be mounted to where the handle bypassed the beam, and installed with several lags, but it might work. Sure would beat bear hugging a hog to lift it to a hook Will they be trussed with a gambrel, or just how will you hang them?
 
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I have a similar rack set up elsewhere but the lumber cost me $600 and I spent about as much on hardware, paint, setting it in concrete, etc. Basically $1,200 or so. Now I realize, doh! I could have just used the carport beam.

Here's a picture of my existing setup.

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What do you mean the winch would have to be mounted "where the handle bypassed the beam"? Also, what is a lag? By lag do you mean pulley? I haven't been using pulleys. I just put the strap through the loop and then use the winch.
 
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Lag.....lag screw, as you have pictured. Yeah, the handle will have to bypass the beam as you have in the last picture, but mounted on the beam itself. Of course mounting two winches one on either side of the new 4x4 will do as you have in the existing situation, just use a pulley on the hook on the beam. The pulley will reduce drag tremendously, making hoisting easier. Mounting two will allow you to work on both sides of the new post. You may only get to work on two hogs at a time.
 
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Chandler, yea that's a good idea. Two winches, one on each side of the 4x4. Except, in the pictures I posted of the winch, its actually an 8x8. The beam on the carport is only 5" wide (actual width). It seems like a pretty obscure size. A 4x4 would be a bit narrow. I would feel more secure doing heavy duty winching with a 6x6 (5.5x5.5 actual size).

I would keep using the operation I have now but the summer is getting hot and there is no shade on my existing rack/winch system. Not to mention the whole thing is leaning over like it wants to fall down. I set it in 2-3' of concrete but apparently when the ground gets moist, that isn't deep enough to keep the whole rack from tilting. That's the main reason I want to move the operation to the carport.

Do you know if I can find a support beam that is 5" wide (actual size)? Would it have to be custom ordered? If so, forget it.

Here's a picture of the 5" width of the carport beam. I don't see why I couldn't use a 6x6. It would only be half an inch over-sized.

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I don't see a problem using a 6x6 for a support post. May have to modify the brackets holding it to the beam, but not by much. 1/4" on either side.
 
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What's wrong with a 6" pressure treated timber?
 
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Originally Posted by Pilot Dane
What's wrong with a 6" pressure treated timber?
I guess it wouldn't be a problem, would it?

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You got it hoss. It should be stable enough and give plenty of space to mount the two winches. OR, you could go with an electric winch..............naah!!
 
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Heck...I think a regular pulley hoist would work just fine, wouldn't it? Way cheaper than any sort of winch.
 
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Originally Posted by Gunguy45;
Heck...I think a regular pulley hoist would work just fine, wouldn't it? Way cheaper than any sort of winch.
What's a "pulley hoist"? I did a web search and this was the first result:

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How do you use it?
 
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Just like a winch...except instead of gears to multiply force, the pulleys do it. Depending on how many pulleys, you could pull 3 ft of rope to raise it 8". Really cheap and easy though. 2 pulleys...pull 2'...raise it 1'...but takes half the effort. 3 pulleys, pull 3' but raise it 1'...at 1/4 the effort.

Something like that anyway.

Anyway...much cheaper than a geared winch. You could prob buy 4 for the price of one crank style winch.
 
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Originally Posted by Gunguy45;
You don't need that much at the bottom of the 4x4. A couple of Simpson L brackets, screwed to the post and anchored into the slab with Tapcon screws or similar is all you would need. Some similar T brackets to attach it to the beam.
I will use L brackets. I looked online and my local hardware store has 4"x6"x10' pressure treated timber.

Are Tapcon screws the same as "concrete anchors" sold at the hardware store? How long should the Tapcon screws be?
 
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Old 04-27-14, 12:33 AM
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Tapcon screws are all blue coated and require a proper sized bit.

You could use the hex head type 1/4" x 1-3/4" or 1/4" x 2-1/4" (bit size is 3/16")

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