Trane or American Standard


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Old 11-11-06, 08:31 AM
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Trane or American Standard

I am choosing a new installation split heat pump system. I am down to 2 dealers, one Trane and one American Standard. I have quates for XL14i & XL16i systems from the Trane dealer and for Heritage 14 & Heritage 16 systems from the American Standard dealer. The American Standard salesman is better (the Trane salesman diidn't measure properly to size the system; although he came up with the same size), but is $600 & $800 more than the Trane dealer. But the Trane dealer is a Trane "Comfort Specialist" dealer, and the American Standard dealer is NOT an American Standard "Comfort Care" dealer and did not know of that program. Which option would you choose?

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Old 11-11-06, 08:52 AM
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You would be better off to keep your post in just one post here . We can help a lot better that way. Now id say for you to go for the XL15i or the Xl19i. The 14 is to low of seer and the 16 is R410a freon and the two stage compressor just unloads one side is all. The 15 and 19 they work better and come in R22 freon. You want to go for a seer of15 or over to get the $ 300 tax credit and the V/S blower for the $50 tax credit. They are both made by the same company. I will say Trane is better made and heaver. Post back here if you need more info .

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Old 11-11-06, 09:27 AM
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Thanks for the advice on posting; sorry about the double post. The American Standad Heritage 14 and the Trane XL14i are listed as having SEER ratings of 15; would this qualify them for the tax credit? I eliminated the XL19i and the Heritage 18 due to lower HSPF ratings than the XL16i and the Heritage 16; I live in East Tennessee where I need heating and cooling about equally.


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I dont have the books here. But go to this www. you will need a print out from it for the tax credit anyway
http://www.aridirectory.org/ari/unitary.html

This will give you the SEER and the HSPF
That is why we try to use the XL15i .It has a SEER of 15.10 and a HSPF of 8.05.
Here in Mo all we sell and put in now for years have been heatpumps .

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The Am Std Heritage 16 DOES NOT qualify for the tax credit. My contractor lied to me and I'm totally ticked off. It has the right SEER (>15), but does not have a high enough HPSF. The Heritage 16 has 8.47, and you have to be >9 for the tax credit.

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I think we fixed it Julie

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Julie, What air handler is your Heritage 16 paired with? My dealer gave me an ARI certificate for a Heritage 16 model 4A6H6036B1 paired with a 4TEE3F40A1 air handler and the HSPF is 9.2 (SEER is 17).
 
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Topcat,

First of all, Trane's XL14i,XL15i,XL16i, and XL19i condenser models are the same as comparable Am Std Heritage models except for the outside cabinet. Trane has the funky top and usually Trane products are more expensive than the Am Std products.

I think it is important to purchase from authorized dealers over the particular brands' "comfort specialist/comfort care" designation. If you are more comfortable with a certain dealer, then check out his references, BBB history,friends/neighbors, and length of time in business.I have always felt that you will get a better job with a smaller HVAC dealer than a large HVAC dealer.

I don't want to get into an argument over R-410a vs R-22 but in fact R-410a(Puron) is here to stay and nothing is wrong with it as long as dealer has experience using it. I have R-410a on my Trane XL14i heat pump and don't regret that decision at all.

You are correct that the XL14i and XL16i have a better balance of SEER and HSPF ratings than the XL15i and XL19i models. I can not comment on the tax credit issue but advise you to research this on ARI site and get it in writing from the dealer that your selected system/size meets the tax credit standard.

I personally believe Trane/AmStd make the best heat pumps but have to admit that Carrier/Bryant have the overall best system with their Infinity/Evolution controls. I like Trane's XL16i model HP and think it would be agreat choice.

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