Carrier vs Trane Heat Pump & Gas vs Electric

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Old 06-03-07, 10:22 AM
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Carrier vs Trane Heat Pump & Gas vs Electric

I presently have an 11yr old Carrier heat pump. I am ready for a new system but I am torn between the Trane XL19i, 4 ton and the Carrier Infinity. Now using electric but have avalibilty to natural gas. Which is more economical? Also, my cooling area is about 1800 sq. feet, is 4 ton enough or should I go for the 5? Last, what is considered a good price. Many thanks, Charles
 
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Old 06-03-07, 11:28 AM
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what area of country do you live?

what is your electric rate?

what is gas rate?

describe your home- sgl story or two, home's insulation qualities, overall condition of ductwork?

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Old 06-04-07, 11:36 AM
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Trane vs Carrier

Live in southwest Fla. Have two story single family. Electric is higher than gas. Home fully insulated, ductwork is good, new system is for main floor about 1600 sq. ft. Thank you.
 
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Old 06-04-07, 12:44 PM
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first choice Carrier Infinity HP with Infinity Control

second choice Trane XL19i with Vision Pro IAQ stat for humidity control

Trane condensers hold up better to coastal environment but Carrier's Infinity controls are second to none.

I can't imagine you need more than a 4 ton but definitely confirm with a man j heat/cool load calc.

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Old 06-06-07, 11:58 AM
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Go to http://warmair.net you can compare fuel cost for there.

Boy I dont know. I have never had more that a 3ton AC in a home with 1900sq ft. Down there in west palm beach. Dont you have FPL??? On any AC there be sure , have them put a time delay on the unit. It will save the compressor for you. Id for sure go with the Trane XL19i.
It has two compressors in it. When you put to big of AC in down there . They dont run very long and that dont take out the humidity . So you end up with mold. A unit the right size will run longer and get the humidity out of the home. Also there you for sure want a V/S blower coil unit. They work like a dream and can take out more humidity. Thats what you want down there.
 
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Trane vs Carrier

Thank you all for you time and insight.
 
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Since this is a topic of the elite Heat Pump air conditioners.
I want to stress about the contractor/Company. It's more important about the contractor than it is the system.

What I looked for is a comparison of different manufactured systems
I compared Carrier, Bryant, Lennox, Trane.

All are 4 ton Systems, Effecency gets better with 3 Ton systems though.
All have Variable Speed Air handlers. It is a must to control humidity!
I was insearch of systems that were as close to 16 SEER 9.0 HSPF
because I was trying to stay away from the top models do to price.
Lennox I had to use their top model because it was the only system for Lennox which qualified for the HSPF 9.0 tax credit.
I also found that 410A was the choice in All Brands to improve effeciency
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ARI# 1250420
Bryant Evolution 16 Puron
HP 286ANA048-B
Fan Coil FE4ANB006+UI
SEER 16.30 HSPF 9.30
10yr Compressor 5 year limited Parts
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ARI # 1250419
Carrier Infinity 16 Puron
HP 25HNA648A30
Fan Coil FE4ANB006+UI
SEER16.30 HSPF 9.30
10yr Compressor 5 year limited Parts
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ARI# 1031214
Lennox XP19 Series 410A
HP XP19-048-230
Fan Coil Unit CBX32MV-060-230
SEER 17.0 HSPF 9.0
10yr Compressor 10 year limited Parts
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ARI# 1106275
Trane XL16i Weathertron R-410A
HP 4TWX6048B1
Fan Coil 4TEE3F49B1
SEER 15.50 HSPF 9.10
10yr Compressor 10 year limited Parts
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Other tid bits I found,
Bryant won Consumers Best Buy for the Evolution 288A their Top System.

On the thermostat controller.
Dealer Design Choice Awards gave Bryant's Evolution Control the highest rating. Which also means the Infinity controller gets the same grade.

So as you can see, I highly recommend any of these systems but the bottom line is your local contractor. That is the most important issue! Not all contractors are the same in quality, warranty issues AND THE PRICE OF LABOR THE COMPANY CHARGES FOR WARRANTY ISSUES! Find out!
Your compressor could go out under warranty but then you get hit with a huge labor bill!
So shop around and get the contractor/company who you feel the most confident in. If that contractor sells Trane, American Standard, Bryant, Carrier or Lennox you won't go wrong with any of the units if they are installed properly, you could go wrong with the wrong contractor.

For Gas vs Electric,
There is hybrid units out there Heat pumps and Gas heat for Auxiliary heat.
Carrier, Bryant and Lennox are promoting these hybrid systems.
The main criteria would be were you live?
If it's colder than 29 degrees for many of your heating days.
I would then go with gas.
If not I stick with electric Aux heat.

Gas is instant heat and cheaper than electric Aux heat.
Gas is also more costly to install so is it really worth the install price?
 
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Old 07-02-07, 03:32 PM
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Live in southwest Fla.

Boy I dont see how gas can cost you less there. You dont run the furnace that much. If you put the $$$ in the bank that the gas furnace will cost you . That should pay the electric bill for electric heat. Also for the time you run the AC a hot water recovery unit will give you free hot water for about 8 months a year and help kick up your seer on the AC
 
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