Had a Lennox HP and heater [emergency heat] installed 5-7 years ago [$10+k] -- Had a $600+ system check [a few hours] done a couple of weeks ago and nothing out of the ordinary was mentioned [system fine, I guess].
A couple of days later noticed the HP was blowing cool air so had someone come look at it. This technician believes it is the TXV [in the heat pump] and proceeded to demonstrate with ice and comparing with that exterior TXV and an interior TXV. Replacing it would be about $4k because of the labor involved at accessing the valve.
My questions are:
Does this seem right? Can I test it [or other possibilities]?
Replacing it would be about $4k because of the labor involved at accessing the valve.
tpring - Where is the TXV located that makes it so laborious to replace a ~$100-$200 valve? It shouldn't cost more than $400-$500 at the most to replace the TXV. A $600+ system check!
A $600 system inspection.
If that is the installer or installing company.... that is not acceptable.
$200 for annual "inspection" would be at the upper limit.
There should be only one TXV valve. It's inside in the air handler.
There is a reversing valve out in the condenser.
I'd lean towards a reversing valve solenoid coil defective before a defective valve.
You can easily check the valve solenoid.
In cooling mode set the thermostat to 80°
Turn the thermostat off.
Wait 10 minutes.
Using someones help.... have them turn the stat to cool while listening at the condenser.
Listen just above the cooling fan. You should hear a fairly loud click.
You're listening for a click from the solenoid.
Since the stat was set high... the contactor won't start.
Thanks for the replies. I got this info second-hand [from wife] so still piecing things together.
$600 was actually included a check of the water heater, heater & heat pump, but still quite pricey [as is everything on the west coast].
The device that is believed to be faulty is outside so it sounds like the reversing valve in the condenser is what the tech was talking about. He used ice to check whether the TXV and reversing valve were working and the device that is outside is the one that is faulty [according to the tech].
His explanation for the $4k bill had something to do with some soldered connections and taking apart the condenser which all would take several hours.
Thanks for the process to test -- Going to have to do a quick study on heat pumps. Do you think the solenoid coil [or condenser] is a job that a low-voltage electrician could tackle?
The coil is a DIY replacement.
The valve is a major job. Definitely not a DIY job.
The reversing gets power only in cooling mode. No power on heat.
In the link is an interesting way to check Lennox reversing valves.
You may have to pull your fan out to get to the valve. Testing Lennox rev valve - video
It is model xp14 and yes it does have a TXV on the outdoor unit and as far as I know [at this point] it is responsible for heating control and, I believe, one indoors that controls cooling. And the HVAC tech "determined" that it is defective and is preventing my HP from heating the house.
Also found that the $4k cost to replace includes various items such as evacuating and recharging refrigerant, nitrogen check, sealing leaks, brazing fittings and about $600 for the TXV.
My goal is to try and verify if the TXV needs to be replaced or if the tech was just guessing. At this point, I might even consider replacing it with an A/C unit. Just not seeing any benefits in the HP.
[color=#4d4d4d]I've been told installing a programmable Wi-Fi thermostat for a heat pump is not a walk-in-the-park the first time.[/color]
[color=#4d4d4d]Could you review my summary of Honeywell's installation steps and function and option settings and let me know if I am missing anything?[/color]
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Old Thermostat: Honeywell TH3210D1004
New Thermostat: Honeywell RTH6580WF1001
1. Switch OFF power to the heat pump system at the circuit breaker box.
[b]Is there any reason to remove the two pull-out disconnects located on top of the air handling unit?[/b]
2. Remove the old thermostat faceplate and take a picture of the wire connections for later reference; see below. (The old thermostat operated without batteries despite having a place for two AA batteries.)
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3. Label wires by terminal connection.
[b]I am planning to skip this step given the correlation of wire color and terminal designation recognizing that the black wire goes to the C-terminal.[/b]
4. Disconnect wires from connection block and remove old wallplate.
5. Separate the new thermostat faceplate from its wallplate and mount it on the wall.
6. Connect the black wire to the C-terminal and the remaining wires as shown in the photo above.
7. Attached faceplate to the wallplate.
8. Switch ON power to the heat pump system at the circuit breaker box.
9. Set clock to current day and time.
10. Set functions and options: For heat pump systems, follow instructions on pages 18 and 19 (see attached) to change the system type by setting System Function 1 to match your thermostat to your system type.
[b]Please review: I highlighted what I think are the correct settings on pages 18 and 19 (see attached).[/b]
11. Test thermostat per instructions.
12. Setup Wi-Fi per instructions.
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Could anyone offer a tip on how to diagnose an emergency heat problem?
I believe the thermostat works fine. When the emergency heat is turned on, the red LED brightens a little bit and the air handler is on but the output air is cold.
The fuses look fine. I have not measured anything. I usually get excellent tips from this great place, so I wanted to get a tip to point me in the right direction in diagnosing this first.
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