...low cost X10 starter kit?

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Old 04-23-05, 09:55 AM
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Question ...low cost X10 starter kit?

I am looking for a good entry level (low cost) x10 starter kit.

I would like to be able to turn on/off several lights with a remote and it would be a bonus to be able to turn on/off set timers ect. by PC but it is not a necessity.

I mainly want to be able to turn on/off (possibly dim) lights with a remote.

Something like this http://www.freewireusa.com/FW3000.htm but with a hardwired solution

Any help would be appreciated
 

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Old 04-25-05, 03:23 AM
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Arrow What is the best bang for your buck X10 Transceiver Module?

Since no one responded to my first thread, I figured I would see how much it would cost to build a x10 home automation by buying each piece individually.

That Leeds me to this question. What is the best bang for your buck X10 Transceiver Module? I want it to reach around 150 ' in distance.

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Old 04-27-05, 05:32 PM
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I used the X-10 TM751 for 5 years but let it go when I moved. It is inexpensive, worked well, but probably won't reach the 150' you need. Stay away from the new ActiveHome Pro. Unfortunately this one was released too soon and has several issues. I ended up returning mine. I have found the V572 RF Whole House Transceiver to work flawless. It is about $70 and can receive all 16 house codes. It does require an X-10 PSC05 serial-to-powerline (about $20) to work but some places sell the two bundled. It includes a coax cable and antenna. I finally mounted the antenna but even with the cable rolled on the floor and the antenna also on the floor it worked 100% of the time anywhere in my 2500 sqft house. Even outside and in the garage. Costs a bit more but well worth it.
 
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Old 04-28-05, 08:14 AM
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I used the X-10 TM751 for 5 years but let it go when I moved. It is inexpensive, worked well, but probably won't reach the 150' you need. Stay away from the new ActiveHome Pro. Unfortunately this one was released too soon and has several issues. I ended up returning mine. I have found the V572 RF Whole House Transceiver to work flawless. It is about $70 and can receive all 16 house codes. It does require an X-10 PSC05 serial-to-powerline (about $20) to work but some places sell the two bundled. It includes a coax cable and antenna. I finally mounted the antenna but even with the cable rolled on the floor and the antenna also on the floor it worked 100% of the time anywhere in my 2500 sqft house. Even outside and in the garage. Costs a bit more but well worth it.
Great, thanks for the feed back...

This is just what I was looking for but two questions..What exactly is the PSC05 serial-to-powerline for?

If you need it why do they sell the
V572 RF Whole House Transceiver without it?

Thanks again
 
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Old 04-28-05, 04:15 PM
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The V572 is manufactured by wgldesigns. Their device receives X-10 RF signals and converts them to RS-232 (serial). The PSC05 is manufactured by X-10 and converts the RS-232 to powerline X-10 signals. The PSC05 makes it easier for wgldesigns because they don't have to build the part that send's X-10 signals on the powerline. Some vendors do sell the two together in a bundle.
 
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Old 04-28-05, 04:54 PM
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Thanks a bunch for the info kw0! I just ordered my stuf tonight.

30021 V572AB Whole House Transceiver 1 @ $79.99

WS4777 Wall Switch Module & Companion 1 @ $12.99

HR12A Palm Pad Controller 1 @ $6.29

KR19A SlimFire Keychain remote 2 @ $6.49

WS467 Wall Switch Module 5 @ $5.99

Subtotal: $142.20
Shipping cost: $6.90

Total: $149.10

I'm on my way to becoming a x-10 junkie!
 
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Old 04-28-05, 06:30 PM
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The V572 is manufactured by wgldesigns. Their device receives X-10 RF signals and converts them to RS-232 (serial).
I'm still a little confused about this so bare with me ..

Does this mean that the V572 is meant to hook through your PC serial bus? If so, can I control x-10 receivers with my PC with the proper software?
 
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Old 04-30-05, 03:54 AM
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I'm still a little confused about this so bare with me ..

Does this mean that the V572 is meant to hook through your PC serial bus? If so, can I control x-10 receivers with my PC with the proper software?

The V572 requires no computer (other then to turn off some house codes if you want which is a one time thing). The PSC05 included in you V572AB could be used to send and receive X-10 signals from your PC by writing or buying sofware, but then the V572 would not work because it would be plugged into your PC and not the V572.

With the items you purchased you can enjoy remote control lighting. If you want timers and such I would reccommend the 1132CU or 1132CUP from smarthome.com. It includes software to create macros and timers. You then download the program to the 1132CU and the computer is not needed unless you want to change something.

Also, speaking from experience, you may want to add a phase coupler. The standard house has 2 legs of power. Depending on the size of the house, if the transmitter is on one leg and the receiver is on the other leg the signal may not reliabily get there. The coupler plugs into the dryer outlet (the dryer is 220V and uses both legs) and can bridge the path so that X-10 can travel. My 1000 sqft has had no problems. My 2000 sqft had a few issues. My 2500 sqft had several. I actually added an amplified coupler and now it is 100% reliable.

You indicated you wanted a low cost solution in your first post. Enjoy your purchase for now and you can always add the last two items if needed at a later time. I have been expanding my basic X-10 system for about 9 years.
 
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Old 04-30-05, 08:48 AM
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Thanks so much Kw0, I realy appreciate you taking the time to explain all of this.
 
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