Record OTA shows on Dish DVR?

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Record OTA shows on Dish DVR?

We recently lost our CBS channel through Dish Network (contract negotiations failed). We can, however, get CBS through an OTA antenna. Is there any way to use the DVR we have through Dish to record CBS shows we get OTA? We work during a lot of our favorite programs so we have really enjoyed using the DVR to record these shows and we are sorely missing having this feature. Thanks for any advice!
 
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What you would have to install is a diplexer. Here's an explaination from Wikipedia what a diplexer is.

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Small diplexers are also used in the home, allowing direct broadcast satellite TV signals from the dish to the receiver to piggyback on one regular coaxial cable, along with lower-frequency signals from an outdoor terrestrial TV antenna for local channels. This is useful in homes which are already pre-wired, because it eliminates the need to install extra cables. However, the pre-wired cables must be the higher-quality RG-6. The less-expensive RG-59 will not pass the higher frequency band (usually 950 to 1450 MHz) output by the satellite TV LNB.
In this case, one diplexer joins the two signals together. Another diplexer then separates the signals to the receiver of the TV set and the IRD of the DBS set-top box. More complex systems have a distribution amplifier, which allows each IRD to access multiple LNBs with different antenna polarizations. These usually have an antenna input and a diplexer, so that the antenna signal is also distributed along with the satellite.
Diplexers are also commonly used to combine UHF TV and VHF TV and FM signals onto one downlead, which can then be split back into its component parts as required.
A DSL filter may also be considered a diplexer, because it splits baseband telephone audio and modulated data. However, the term is usually reserved for radio frequencies; and also such a filter may only remove the DSL from the phone side, but not the phone from the DSL side.
 
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Old 01-05-09, 07:00 AM
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If you have a Dish HD receiver, with OTA tuner, hook the antenna direct to the dish receiver and scan for channels. When your CBS shows up, it will now appear in the normal Dish guide. If it's a twin tuner receiver you can record THREE shows at once!!
If your Dish receiver is not HD, you will not be able to dvr it.

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PS (eventually your cbs affiliate/owner will cave in and not demand more money than the others)
 
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Thanks for the responses. I'm not very technically savy, so the diplexer solution was a bit over my head, but thanks!

The HD DVR receiver from Dish may be the easiest way to go. Although I called Dish to see if this would work and they said no, but you can't always trust those customer service people, you know? We've been considering upgrading anyway (we have an SD receiver right now).

One more quick question - when they convert to digital in Feb., will the signal be as strong? Since we live in the country, our current CBS analog station is fuzzy, but viewable. We are not picking up ANY digital stations (we just bought a new TV, so it should support it), but maybe that's just because they won't switch until February...? I'm hoping the reception will be as good or better.

I know, someone will cave eventually in the contract situation, but it is frustrating waiting for when that happens! Thanks again!
 
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As you suspected, Dish csr's don't know much beyond Satellite TV, if they even know that.
What you want to do is EXACTLY what I've done.
OTA antenna diplexed to TV1 and TV2, with a Dish HD DVR at TV1 and TV2 signal(ch 22) on same coax as OTA signal.
It's difficult to explain here, but try Googling diplexer diagrams and you may find what you need.

HDTV conversion.....should not affect you at all!!!
You mentioned 'analog' -- meaning you are not paying the $5.00 fee for local satellite channels???

Try this - get an indoor amplified antenna, hook it direct to new digital tv and scan for channels. If you can't pick up digitals from indoors, simply return the antenna(ask the sales agent first just in case). If not successful you may need a larger outdoor antenna. BUT first, check with a local Dish retailer!!!!! You may have HD locals already, or they may be in the works.

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Originally Posted by amandalynnwrigh View Post
One more quick question - when they convert to digital in Feb., will the signal be as strong? Since we live in the country, our current CBS analog station is fuzzy, but viewable. We are not picking up ANY digital stations (we just bought a new TV, so it should support it), but maybe that's just because they won't switch until February...? I'm hoping the reception will be as good or better.
Fewalt has wonderful suggestions. As far as your fuzzy reception goes, digital works slightly different. Either it is there or it is not. Sometimes you may get pixalization before the picture drops out if the signal is bad.
 
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