Aprilaire 560 troubleshooting - wiring issue?
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Aprilaire 560 troubleshooting - wiring issue?
Newbie here. I moved into my house a few years ago, and there was a house humidifier installed. After 2 years of very dry winters, I decided to attempt to figure out if the humidifer was actually working. I think I have gotten it down to a wiring problem, but need someone smarter than me to hopefully help me out.
I have a Bryant furnace (if relevant). The wiring to the humidifier are hooked to the HUM and COM terminals. The wire is white (to HUM), red (to COM) and green (not attached). From the thermostat (model #883321B), the wire is hooked into the two (and only two) terminals, with the same type of brown wire, with white on one terminal, red on the other, and green not attached. These two wires (one from the furnace, and the other from the thermostat) meet at the solenoid. The white wires are capped together. The red from the furnace attaches to one connection of the solenoid, and the red from the thermostat connects to the other connection of the solenoid.
I have verified that the water tap is working, and that the inline filter is clean leading into the solenoid.
I have reviewed the installation guides I could find online, but cannot tell if the wiring is correct. I figure either I have a wiring issue or a solenoid issue.
In looking at http://www.alpinehomeair.com/ewebedi...er_Wiring2.gif it almost seems like the wiring might not be correct since the furnace does not directly connect to the termostat except via the white wire. But then all of those pictures depict thermostats with more than two terminal connections.
I checked with a Multimeter and it seemed that I wasn't getting any volts from between the HUM and COM terminals when the furnace and blower were running, so I tried moving the white to W and red to R (where W and R were terminals within the furnace), and am seeing current between those leads.
So my thoughts are one of two options:
Option 1 - Rewire:
Disconnect all existing wiring. Run new wire from furnace to thermostat (one terminal from thermostat to HUM, the second terminal from thermostat to COM - at least to start with, still given the apparent lack of voltage mentioned above), and then from thermostat to solenoid. That would mean however that I would have two connections going to each terminal of the thermostat, and don't know if that would be an issue.
Option 2 - Replace Solenoid:
Not even sure where I would get one but would like to avoid if it turns out to be a wiring issue.
Option 3 - ???
Sorry for the novel. I am trying to be as thorough as possible. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Jim
I have a Bryant furnace (if relevant). The wiring to the humidifier are hooked to the HUM and COM terminals. The wire is white (to HUM), red (to COM) and green (not attached). From the thermostat (model #883321B), the wire is hooked into the two (and only two) terminals, with the same type of brown wire, with white on one terminal, red on the other, and green not attached. These two wires (one from the furnace, and the other from the thermostat) meet at the solenoid. The white wires are capped together. The red from the furnace attaches to one connection of the solenoid, and the red from the thermostat connects to the other connection of the solenoid.
I have verified that the water tap is working, and that the inline filter is clean leading into the solenoid.
I have reviewed the installation guides I could find online, but cannot tell if the wiring is correct. I figure either I have a wiring issue or a solenoid issue.
In looking at http://www.alpinehomeair.com/ewebedi...er_Wiring2.gif it almost seems like the wiring might not be correct since the furnace does not directly connect to the termostat except via the white wire. But then all of those pictures depict thermostats with more than two terminal connections.
I checked with a Multimeter and it seemed that I wasn't getting any volts from between the HUM and COM terminals when the furnace and blower were running, so I tried moving the white to W and red to R (where W and R were terminals within the furnace), and am seeing current between those leads.
So my thoughts are one of two options:
Option 1 - Rewire:
Disconnect all existing wiring. Run new wire from furnace to thermostat (one terminal from thermostat to HUM, the second terminal from thermostat to COM - at least to start with, still given the apparent lack of voltage mentioned above), and then from thermostat to solenoid. That would mean however that I would have two connections going to each terminal of the thermostat, and don't know if that would be an issue.
Option 2 - Replace Solenoid:
Not even sure where I would get one but would like to avoid if it turns out to be a wiring issue.
Option 3 - ???
Sorry for the novel. I am trying to be as thorough as possible. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Jim
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Model # on this?
This the wire that was wired to HUM? If so, REMOVE that wire right away!
White wire to W, and red wire to C.
so I tried moving the white to W and red to R (where W and R were terminals within the furnace), and am seeing current between those leads.
White wire to W, and red wire to C.
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You can wire the one wire to W, Other wire needs to stay on common. If you had W and R wired up, you may fire off your furnace, and over heat it.
The number you gave me don't mean anything, the model is inside the furnace on a sticker with the model and serial #.
The number you gave me don't mean anything, the model is inside the furnace on a sticker with the model and serial #.
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It is dial (not digital) with 5% humidity increments up to 40%. Found this thread that sounds like exactly what I have (2 leads, etc). Aprilaire 760 humidistat wiring - http://www.hvacmechanic.com/ Forums
Very similar to this one (without the copyright BelAire bit).
http://electronicaircleaners.com/ima...016_photo1.jpg
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http://static.squidoo.com/resize/squ...016-Humidistat[2].jpg
Very similar to this one (without the copyright BelAire bit).
http://electronicaircleaners.com/ima...016_photo1.jpg
or
http://static.squidoo.com/resize/squ...016-Humidistat[2].jpg
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Sorry for the delayed response. I was out of town unexpectedly.
Yes, heat was being called for when I tried to get a reading on HUM.
And just to make sure I understand your graphic, the red is the red wire, and thin black is the white one?
Yes, heat was being called for when I tried to get a reading on HUM.
And just to make sure I understand your graphic, the red is the red wire, and thin black is the white one?
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Ok. Breakthrough. I went to every wired connection, disconnected and reconnected as is. And checked an hour later, and the filter was wet. PROGRESS!
So it appears that the wiring was not connected completely at one of the six points. So, since then, it fires up, solenoid pops, and water starts to flow.
Last question. How loud should the solenoid be? I can hear it easily from upstairs.
In the home stretch here.
Thanks
Jim
So it appears that the wiring was not connected completely at one of the six points. So, since then, it fires up, solenoid pops, and water starts to flow.
Last question. How loud should the solenoid be? I can hear it easily from upstairs.
In the home stretch here.
Thanks
Jim
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I am going to close this thread out. Jay, thanks for your help confirming/correcting the wiring. When the water shuts off, the noise is coming from the pipe, so the water pressure is causing the pipe to make noise. Solved it by turning down the amount of water going into the humidifer.
Thanks again!
Jim
Thanks again!
Jim