Small roach problem


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Old 09-06-12, 08:03 AM
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Angry Small roach problem

Hello, a few weeks ago we noticed a cockroach and new If there was one there was more. So we went and got foggers, hot shots to be exact. Set them off as directed. Cleaned everything afterwards. Didn't see any for a few dad and thought thank god! That was easy..... Nope, they didn't vanish after all. I don't see a lot it's just here and there and I kill the ones I see and constantly move my fridge and stove looking for tthem and kill them. The only place I se tthen is in our kitchen and it's gross. I can't even eat at my house cause all I think about is them crawling on my dishes. How can I effectually kill these annoying things for good? Do foggers not work? We are not dirty people. We believe my younger sister brought them as she was bringing bags of clothes to wash and later found out she had roaches. Please help me end this problem. Oh and they can't be coming from a neighbor cause we live in country with practically no neighbors. Thank you for any advice.
 
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Welcome to the forums!

I used to live in fla and fighting roaches is an ungoing issue there
What I used to do was use the foggers about once a month and then use a spray along the baseboard and any cracks. I never did completely eliminate them but if the only ones I saw where in the middle of the night and on their back kicking their legs drawing their last breath, I was happy

Your location shouldn't be as bad but I would spray along with the bombs. The chemical I used was discontinued but I would think any roach spray would be better than none. We have a bug expert here on the forums. Hopefully he'll have time to reply later today
 
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Old 09-06-12, 02:52 PM
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Borax behind appliances seems to work pretty well, too. It doesn't kill them, just runs them away to your neighbor's house PAbugman will be along shortly after supper.
 
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Youíre right Chandler; Iíve got the grill going right now; canít talk long. Youíve got me patterned. Talk later.
 
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Old 09-06-12, 08:28 PM
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Lol. Okay I've heard of the borac acid and wondered if it worked. I don't really care how they leave I'd rather they die tho lol. I just need something that will make tthem get out of my house and not ccome back.
 
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Old 09-07-12, 07:09 AM
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OK, Iím back. Letís kill some roaches. Foggers/total release aeros kill the insects that are exposed. They are much better for flying insects that canít/wonít hide.

Two strategies to try (do not do both):

1) Aerosols that are made for crawling insects. These are the type that shoot more of a stream rather than a wide-spread release. Crawling insect aeros have a residual chemical in them meaning that when it dries, the insecticide is still present for the roaches to walk thru. You wouldnít want a residual insecticide in a fogger as it would be all over the place. Use residual insecticde aeros aimed at or into cracks and crevices, empty cabinets/cupboards, underneath sink, etc.

2) Roach gel/liquid baits. I suggest using gels and liquid roach baits at the same time. Do not use sprays as it will ruin the baits and disrupt the roaches too much. The liquids will be in little stations that you can place around fridge, stove, etc so you donít need to move them. The gels come in plastic syringes so you can inject into cracks and crevices. You could use the liquid stations in cabinets (no need to remove dishes) or use gels onto small pieces of wax paper for ease in eventual removal/cleaning. The baiting strategy means that the roaches donít know that anything is threatening them, so stop moving appliances for now at least. Just bait and let them eat undisturbed. Baiting works slowly, but it works. We do a lot of it. Some baits will have boric acid in them, but whatís more important is that you use gels/liquids as the roaches seem to go for the ďwetterĒ baits as opposed to the standard dry bait stations.

Baits are available at the big stores. Be ready to work on hands and knees with a good light. It will take time and some $$$ to solve but you can do it cheaper than hiring someone. Worst case scenario, even if you end up hiring someone, in the meantime you will provide a degree of control while you evaluate your progress. Now would be a good time to talk to friends, family, and such about who they like as pest control guys. Donít sign up for a years worth of monthly services; find someone (small business usually) that will work with you until the problem is solved, no contracts involved.

I wouldnít use boric acid powder until you are finished with the baiting program. Boric acid would help as a preventative. Roaches can avoid boric acid; not to say it isnít a tool; our industry has been using it for over a century in many forms.

Keep us posted.
 
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Old 09-07-12, 07:37 AM
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Thank you! I am cleaning all my cub boards right now and getting rid of small appliances we no longer use like the toaster and coffee pot, if anything we can always buy new ones but the thought of ten crawling around in/on them makes me not want to use them anymore anyways. This afternoon I will go and get the baits said about and start using those first. I know when we get ants in the spring the bait systems works well for them and we r free of them all year round. I have been noticing a lot of tiny roaches rather than large ones lately. Don't know if that's a good sign or bad lol just means they've been busy! I'll update in about a week to let u know how progress is going. Other than despising these little annoying bugs another reason we need rid of tthem sooner than later is we are planning in moving and taking tthem with us is not an option! Thank you again!!
 
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Talstar, gets rid of any bugs.

Just bored on a saturday and found this forum while looking for tiling information. Try Talstar have to find online somewhere like Amazon, but works amazing for all bugs. Exterior of house, yard and interior. Will live a white film so wouldn't want to spray on countertops but in cupboards where can't see would probably work. Don't know alot about the roaches but find where they get in and start there. This lasts three months and we are bug free.
 
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Old 09-08-12, 01:58 PM
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welcome slickschick25! Glad you were bored and found us!

The active ingredient in Talstar is bi-fenthrin which I like a lot. The exception would be that it isnít that great on roaches, at least in the initial phase of treatment. Later on as a maintenance/preventative for roaches it will be fine. I like the non-repellent insecticdes for roaches; Talstar/bifenthrin is a repellent insecticide so it shouldnít be used during a baiting program. We use a lot of it on the exterior of houses; good for carpenter ants too. Bi-fenthrin is now off patent so there are other brand names using bi-fenthrin; some are cheaper than Talstar. We use a lot of it otherwise the cost difference probably isnít that significant. You might want to look for bi-fenthrin in the big box stores though; save on shipping, etc. Look for the ďactive ingredientĒ section on the label.
 
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Update on our nasty little house guests

Okay so I did the boric acid and baits and they have deffinately gone down in the amount we see I might see one like once or twice a week through the night and I kill them as I see them I don't let them get away. The main spot they were hanging out was behind the fridge and that's where I put boric acid. I haven't seen one there in sometime. So im
guessing I've dknocked down there numbers.... Not sure how roaches work but I've heard if u see one u got millions. We are wanting to buy a house but are kept here in fear of dragging them with us. Do I just keep replacing the boric acid, cause a free a while it just gets hard and cakes to floor but not hard to clean up. Or do I need to do something different? I'm ready to call a professional but not sure if that is even a definate fix. And I can't understand y they stay here. Sure my toddlers are messy little beings but I Vaccum under our couch and between cushions scrub our floor and kitchen table chairs, bleach my counters, and garbage cans. Clean behind stove and fridge. I've bleached all my cub bards. Oh and that's another question, bleach kills all kinds of stuff but does it har any effect on roaches? Thanks again for any advice!
 
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With the boric acid that thick they arenít going to walk thru it; they will avoid it. Stick with the gel baits; removing the old bait placements and replacing with fresh once a week or every two weeks.

Boric acid in powder form is good for creating toxic environments inside wall voids and other such spaces. This generally requires drilling small holes in dry wall to apply, removing trim boards, etc. Itís not used much for roaches anymore but more for termites in wall voids. The gel/liquid baits are better, some of which contain boric acid.

Buy some roach glue traps and put in various areas-they can work as a monitoring device and help you locate pockets.

Try to get some gel bait above and behind kitchen cabinets; both base and wall cabinets. Make many locations.

Roaches arenít going to leave-they must be killed one way or another. Being clean is good-it limits the conducive conditions.
 
 

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