Squirrel in the ceiling?

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Old 09-02-15, 08:01 AM
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Squirrel in the ceiling?

Man, always something. sounds like a squirrel got into the ceiling somehow, what can i do here please?
 
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You probably have a gap or loose vent somewhere in your soffits. Once you find his access you can wait til he goes out foraging during the day and close up his entry...or you might have luck thumping the ceiling to drive him out.

When this happened to me I learned the reality is a squirrel has nothing better to do than spend all day every day trying to get back into your cozy home, and your time preventing it is limited.
 
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Old 09-02-15, 08:45 AM
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Hi Mike, Guys advice is correct. In the sprig I evicted a gray squirrel, I let him stay there for the winter, but he sure didn't appreciate my kindness. Not only did he tear away at the boards I install, but he attacked similar locations on other soffits. So, in addition to any access point you locate, be sure there are not alternate options for that critter.

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Old 09-02-15, 09:48 AM
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About the only entry place I can see is under the outside of the roof but that would mean the squirrel would would need to walk upside to get to that loose piece of whatever that is?

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Cakewalk for a squirrel. They are the circus performers of the rodent family. I have sat & watched a black squirrel make several trips carrying nesting material vertically up the corner of a neighbors aluminum-sided garage & SQUEEZE through an impossibly small opening in the soffit--while clinging upside-down to the aluminum panel.
 
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So what would be my procedure here, to start banging on the ceiling and have someone stand outside of the house to see if/when it comes out? Nothing else if that doesn't work?
 
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From my experience, they leave in the morning and return in the evening. During good weather there is no reason for them to be inside during the day. The one I had to deal with would depart at early sunrise and return around 3 pm, I guess he got tired.

I don't think banging on the walls and such will scare him or them out as they consider your home a safe place.

Not that they need it, but are there any tree branches overhanging the roof?

And I agree, that is probably the place. Can't tell from the picture, is that a vinyl soffit. If yes, they may just pull it open again. In fact, that may be why it is already open.

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Old 09-02-15, 11:02 AM
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No, that's a metal undercovering. I had thought it probably came loose by itself. No overhanging trees
 
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Other things can sound like a squirrel in an attic. Can you get up there and inspect? Giving advice at this early stage is just speculation.
 
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Old 09-02-15, 07:15 PM
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There isn't an attic, the inside ceiling is flat, the roof however is a little slanted like an upside down V but not with a sharp angle as a V so has some space between the ceiling and the roof. We also hear it in the ground floor bathroom ceiling sometimes.
 
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One of those game cameras might identify what you are dealing with and narrow down the entrance point. If you haven't actually seen it, the other critters larger than mice may still be possible, possum, raccoons, and the other (bigger mouse).

I have trapped several red squirrels. Took awhile, but they eventually became comfortable with the presence of my live trap.

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Old 09-03-15, 05:10 AM
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Well since I can't break the ceiling then what are my options, if I go around looking for any points of entry and sealing them up then whatever is in there will die and stink up the place.
 
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Is there a basement. Typical construction would limit movement through the walls for other than small critters like mice, the exception would be around large plumbing pipes, chimneys, and such. If you have a basement or crawl space you can inspect and seal large access points from down there to the ceiling above. If you see no activity indications then those can be sealed. If you see activity then the access point may be down low with them then moving to the ceiling for more comfort.

Once you eliminate any low access points and paths to the attic, then it confirms the loose doffit you pictured is most likely their point of entry.

You will need a ladder to get up there and fix it, but before that, cover i with tissue or something that will give you an indication they are using that location. Dig out your Macgyver thinking and improvise something that will tell you they are inside or outside. Example is the row of toothpicks that get flattened in one direction or the other. Won't necessarily work here, but that's the idea.

Here's an option, not easy but might work. Cover the opening with tissue paper and then build a strong cage below the opening. If they are outside they won't be able to get to the tissue. If they are inside they will go through the tissue and then find themselves blocked.

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Now you have got me thinking. The trap I used to catch my red squirrels (Tractor Supply) could be installed below the soffit to one side. Improvise a right angle access so once they exit the opening in the soffit they will have only one option, enter the trap. You could add some apple and peanut butter as incentive at the far end.

This approach works well because you know they are most likely inside at night.

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Old 09-05-15, 04:39 AM
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I am thinking it may be tricky to hang a trap just outside that opening, if it is that opening, my neighbor says we can seal the opening around midday since if it's a squirel it would surely leave to to feed during that time?
 
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I agree that would be the quickest way to see what happens. My entrance point was wood soffits and he did a number trying to get back in. He didn't and at least it assured me he was OUTSIDE, yaaa.

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Old 09-06-15, 05:38 AM
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Well if I go that route and there's still one or more inside then I guess they will die in there, if that happens there is a very large ceiling fan in the kitchen which sounds like a turbine engine when turned on, I am guessing that could be used to throw out any smell?
 
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Have you heard any more noises from the attic space? You don't want any critter decomposing anywhere in the house. The odor will make you want to move! Hopefully it was just the one but if you hear activity, I'd be figuring out how to trap or otherwise remove him.
 
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The noise isn't there everytime I go up there, mainly in the evenings I think.
 
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Old 09-18-15, 08:10 AM
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Hey guys, I have a small hole in my ground floor ceiling which we had put there a while back when we had a leak from the upstairs bathroom located directly above ours so the guy had put in a removable cover. It's not big enough to put a cage/trap but I am wondering if we can put any sort of "repellent" in there but problem is that this would be under the upstairs floor and not in the upstairs ceiling where the noise is most of the time. I am thinking if push comes to shove to put some sort of poison in our bathroom ceiling but some guys are telling me that we won;t get any smell and some are saying the opposite so I don't know what to believe.
 
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I donít have hope that a repellent will work. Never had any success. Maybe others have. If a squirrel sized animal dies inside the walls/floors you will get a serious odor. If it dies in the attic and the attic is vented then the odor may vent outside except when weather conditions push the odor back inside.

Are you positive that it is a squirrel?
 
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Old 09-19-15, 05:18 AM
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No I am not sure but the sound it makes is that of a squirrel. There is a very large and powerful ceiling fan in the kitchen ceiling upstairs so I am thinking if whatever it is should die up there then I can turn on that fan which will exhaust the odor so now I am thinking that poison will be my only option so now what do I use. I am wondering if I can use those cube shaped rat poison they sell at Home depot, I can remove the ground floor bathroom's ceiling cover and drop a few in there, will that work?
 
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If whatever it is eats enough then it will kill the animal. Weíre still in the speculating stage though.
 
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Old 09-20-15, 05:42 AM
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Yeah, also the ceiling fan venting won't work I think because I'm sure it has a duct leading to the outside vent which will only exhaust whatever odor is in the kitchen and not what's between the ceiling and the roof.
 
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Without going back and reading the entire thread, I believe there was a consideration to just block the suspected entrance point at a time when you hoped he/they were out. The concern was, maybe there would be one trapped inside and it might die and stink. That's a maybe where poisoning is an almost certainty. Plus, if you block the opening and don't hear any more sounds, high probability they are not inside. If you do hear sounds you can still re-open the hole.

Do you have a ladder to get up to the suspected access hole? If so, gently stuff the opening with tissue paper they can easily push out of the way. make it secure enough the wind doesn't blow it out, but this can help confirm the exit point, and also the size of the critter.

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Old 09-21-15, 05:01 AM
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Yes, that's a great idea, I will try that first, get back to you, thanks!
 
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Old 09-24-15, 11:41 AM
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Yesterday we saw one going through the soffit, what I have decided to do is to first try placing this repellent into the ceiling:

Havahart 2 lb. Critter Ridder Animal Repellent Granules-3142-HD - The Home Depot

Then give it 2 days then seal the soffit so if the repellent should not work by driving them out then I will put poison in the ceiling, what do you guys think?
 
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The repellent is worth a try certainly. One time I placed one pound of moth balls into a soffit to deter a squirrel. When I came by to check I found the moth balls had been kicked out and were on the ground.

Squirrels are difficult to poison as they donít like to eat unusual items. If they eat it, it will work.
 
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Old 09-24-15, 03:59 PM
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So my friend who does construction put some repellent in our bathroom ceiling and cut a hole in the upstairs ceiling to put some there and he was jokingly saying a few times "come out come out" then a squirrel jumped through that hole and scared the begeezes out of us! We closed the bedrooms and bathroom door and ushered it out via the LR, it was small fella so guess the parent(s) were either somewhere else in the ceiling or out for food so we will wait until saturday then seal the soffit and if we should hear anything in there afterwards we will place the poison.
 
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There are three different types/size squirrels, that I'm familiar with. Grey squirrels are the largest, then red squirrels, then chipmunks. The chippy are a bit smaller than the red and have some stripes.

Rather late in the year for young ones to be very much smaller than the adults. Where you saw one entering the soffit, was the one that jumped out the same color/size?

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I did not see the one entering the soffit, a friend of mine was sitting there and he noticed it. This squirrel was not grey but more brownish in color.
 
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That would be one of the red squirrels and they are not very big, thus what you encountered inside may have been an (the) adult and there may be just one. Emphasis on may.

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Old 09-24-15, 05:27 PM
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That had crossed my mind and I was suggesting to the friend that we seal the soffit right now but because we were thinking it was a baby and that the parents were still in the ceiling somewhere that's why we decided to leave it for a day or two to see if the repellent's smell will run them out. Other reason for thinking it was a baby aside from it's smaller size is because when it ran outside it just sat there in the yard as if lost or not knowing what to do or where to go, either that or maybe it got injured? I will check in the morning to see if it it's still there in the yard.
 
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Old 09-25-15, 06:59 AM
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I just heard something in my ground floor bathroom ceiling so I think it's safe to say the repellent is not working so tomorrow I will get the poison.
 
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I guess the question I should ask is how long does it take for the repellent to work?
 
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Well guys, the repellent did not work but yesterday we cut a few holes in the ceilings and sprayed raw ammonia at a friend's suggestion then left Rat X poison for any future invaders then we sealed up the outside entrance, so far no movements.
 
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Sounds good! Keep us posted.
 
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Old 10-05-15, 09:25 AM
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He was back yesterday, our only hope now is he eats the poison and if he does that that posing will work since it's designed for rats
 
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Don't know guys, it's been a few days now and the critter is still in our ceiling, so it's either it's not eating the rat poison or if it then that poison is not working, anything else I can try far as poison goes?
 
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Squirrels are known to store food for the winter so you might have a long wait until he gets hungry.

Since you know where he is/was getting in, if you opened it he might be quick to exit. Do the tissue trick on a weekend so you can check it frequently. Open the access, place something like tissue where he would have to move it to get out. Then keep checking. If you see he exited, close the access and pray he is still outside.

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