Recessed lighting, bulbs (quick answer please)

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Old 04-22-06, 04:17 PM
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Recessed lighting, bulbs (quick answer please)

I just installed 5 4" remodel cans and it states i use 50watt bulbs, however the regular Phillips bulbs are not bright enough. If I use the Par-20 halogen bulbs rated at 50watts 550 lumens 130volts , will they be ok and briger than the regular phillips rated at 50watts 220lumens? I think they are 120volts.

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Old 04-22-06, 04:31 PM
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If 100 watt-equivelent compact fluorescents fit, I would go that route. You would get the lumens of a 95-100 watt bulb at only 23-25 watts of heat and electrical output.

Did you do a typo on the 220 lumens? That is awfully low.
 
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Thanks for the reply, the inside of the cans says:

40W R16 MAX
50W R20 MAX
40W A19 MAX

The current bulbs I have on there are actually 50W but it doesnt mention any of those above numbers, its actually a Philips Natural Light rated at 265 Lumens (indoor Flood). If i install the Philips MasterLine® 50 Watt PAR-20 Halogen Flood Bulb rated at 550 Lumens (130W), how much more light should i see? almost double or not quite? They are $8 each so i dont want to buy them and they are not worth it.

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btw, what are the difference between those 3 listed lights above, which one will be brighter, if you suggest any brighter lights please send link. I want something that wont trip. I tried a 100watt and when its on for about 10minutes some of the bulbs go out and when they are cool they come back on. So i am sure its because of the wattage of those bulbs.
 
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The "R" number for light bulbs has to do with the diameter. The 50 watt Halogen lamps should be fine, with a light output higher than that of the standard PAR lamp.

It's hard to correlate lumens to what your eyes actually percieve. I'd buy a couple of them and try them. If they don't suit you, take them back for a refund.

Still not enough light? Compact fluorescent PAR equivalents won't fit in a 4" can, but if they're remodel cans it wouldn't take much to change them out to the 6" type. Lots of light available there - up to 150 watts each, depending on trim.
 
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so on a general comparison, the Phillip 50W Natural Light Flood at 265 Lumans, wont be not much brighter than a Philip 50W Halogen 550 lumens 130Volts light? and will that 130V work on the 120V Halo can?
 
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You could use a Genura by GE and it will fit in the 4" can.

You'll get 1100 lumens @ 23 watts and 15,000 hrs of life.

Downfall is you'll pay about $25 bucks each but that is compensated by its long life and energy savings.
 
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Wow, $125 for 5 bulbs.lol at least the room will be bright.
Do you have a link to where i can find it. I checked on HD and LOWES site and cant locate.

You will not recommend the Philips Halogen 550lumens at 50W? Will it be that much noticable brighter than the Philips 50W at 265 lumens?

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You could use a Genura by GE and it will fit in the 4" can.

You'll get 1100 lumens @ 23 watts and 15,000 hrs of life.

Downfall is you'll pay about $25 bucks each but that is compensated by its long life and energy savings.
 
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You will probably have to get them at a lighting store or electrical store. Grainger may even carry them.

That Philips bulb will work just fine but look at it this way. It's got a 2,000 hr life @ at least $6 bucks for the bulb. So it would take 7 of these bulbs to get the life of one Genura.
 
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when these bulbs are rated "2000 hours" "15,000" do they really last that long or close to it?
 
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Old 04-24-06, 05:32 AM
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I've used them for years. When they 1st came out they had some problems but I guess they've now ironed them out and now allthough I haven't timed them they seem to last longer than rated most of the time without losing much light quality at all.
 
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Originally Posted by mattison
I've used them for years. When they 1st came out they had some problems but I guess they've now ironed them out and now allthough I haven't timed them they seem to last longer than rated most of the time without losing much light quality at all.
Thanks for the confirmation. I checked on HD and Lowes and they dont carry them, I have to find a local Electrical store or light store in northern va that might carry them.
 
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