Installing a ceiling fan without wall switch

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Old 06-02-07, 06:18 PM
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Installing a ceiling fan without wall switch

I want to install a ceiling fan in a room that has no light/ceiling fan. I found a junction box close by in the attic. I want to use the pull chains on the ceiling fan to control the light fixture and the fan. Please explain starting with the junction box how to do this.
 
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Old 06-02-07, 07:23 PM
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First find out if you can use this circuit. To do so you must have FULL power at this junction box. Second, it must NOT be on the same circuit as certain other rooms. Post back with what circuit this is and we can go from there.

Finally, I think you should seriously consider if you want no wall switch. Since you have an attic, installing a switch is very easy. You might even be able to use the existing switch in the room (if you make this a light and a fan).
 
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Old 09-17-07, 01:45 PM
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Installing a ceiling fan without a wall switch

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I want to install a ceiling fan in a room that has no light/ceiling fan. I found a junction box close by in the attic. I want to use the pull chains on the ceiling fan to control the light fixture and the fan. Please explain starting with the junction box how to do this.
I hope someone answers you I have the same situation.
 
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Old 09-17-07, 01:49 PM
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Provide the requested information and we'll go from there.
 
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Old 09-17-07, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by racraft View Post
Provide the requested information and we'll go from there.
I have a small room I'm converted to a laundry room. when you walk in the door there is a closet on your left and the door swings to the right. It would be easier to just use the pull chains for the fan and light. How do I connect the ceiling fan and light without wall switches?
 

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Bob wants to know all the loads served by the circuit that your attic junction box is on. You'll need to go up to the attic, test for power in the junction box (with any of a variety of testers), and then shut off breakers one at a time until the power goes away. A helper is almost essential for this, unless you want to get a lot of exercise. Then, with that one breaker still off, try everything in your house to see what is now without power.

There are probably a dozen reasons why that junction box might be unsuitable to tap power from, and we need to eliminate all those possibilities.

P.S. Through many years of examples, we know that nobody ever has exactly the "same situation" as somebody else.
 
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Old 09-18-07, 01:43 AM
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To explain the need for more info further, I'll give you a couple of examples. If the wiring in that box is controlled by a switch, say for a ceilining light, then you don't have a hot wire. You have a switchleg that will turn on and off with the switch in another room. Another problem would be if it's feeding a bathroom or kitchen. These rooms require dedicated circuits. Legally you can't tap into them. Another reason would be that you don't want to overload a circuit. You always want to know what's on the circuit you're tapping into.
 
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Old 09-18-07, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by John Nelson View Post
Bob wants to know all the loads served by the circuit that your attic junction box is on. You'll need to go up to the attic, test for power in the junction box (with any of a variety of testers), and then shut off breakers one at a time until the power goes away. A helper is almost essential for this, unless you want to get a lot of exercise. Then, with that one breaker still off, try everything in your house to see what is now without power.

There are probably a dozen reasons why that junction box might be unsuitable to tap power from, and we need to eliminate all those possibilities.

P.S. Through many years of examples, we know that nobody ever has exactly the "same situation" as somebody else.
I'm not tapping into a junction box, this will be new wiring with maybe an outlet or two.
 
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Old 09-18-07, 08:58 AM
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See, I knew you didn't have the same situation.

Richwood, there are a million ways to do this. We can't possibly describe them all. We need you to do some investigation and limit the options.

I would also suggest you go to your home improvement center or library, and pick up and read at least three books on home wiring. This will give you many ideas.

The first thing to figure out is where you are going to get power for your new fan, and your new outlets (something you snuck in at the last minute that greatly increases the complexity of the job). Depending on what you plan to run off those new outlets, you may need a completely new circuit. Also, since this is a laundry area, there are other codes involved for receptacles.

I really think you need to start with the books. If we were standing in your house, we could see what you have to work with. But from here it's hard to tell.
 
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Old 09-18-07, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Richwood View Post
I hope someone answers you I have the same situation.

You should start your own thread and hijack someone else's. That way you will get an eamil everytime someone responds and not the orginal poster.
 
 

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