Can a contractor install non-UL approved?
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10-24-07, 09:14 AM
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Can a contractor install non-UL approved?
Does anyone know if a contactor/builder/developer can install wall-mounted electric fireplaces that are not UL or CSA approved? Are these approvals a building code issue or just consumer oriented?
Thanks in advance for any help!
Thanks in advance for any help!
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10-25-07, 12:16 AM
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In Canada and likely in the US the electrical code requires all electrical devices to be approved by an inspection agency.
It is the electrical inspector who should be passing or rejecting the fireplace installation.
It is the electrical inspector who should be passing or rejecting the fireplace installation.
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10-25-07, 04:51 AM
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UL and other inspection authorities tend to safeguard us, so I question why the contractor wants to install one without such an inspection. Could it be the cost? I'm not saying the unit is not safe, but why doesn't it bear the UL certificate?
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10-25-07, 05:31 PM
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The reason it may not have been approved is that it takes thousands of dollars and many months to perform all the testing required.
Non UL equipment is installed everyday.
A reputable manufacturer will not sell you a dangerous product intentionally.
For instance, we have been installing whole house generators that do not have a UL listing and they are manufactured by some of the biggest names in the business.
Most of them are working on it.
One manufacturer that I spoke to the other day spent high six figures and over a year's worth of time getting his product line approved.
That being said, I would be leery of a chinese product that produces heat and has electrical components that are not UL approved.
Non UL equipment is installed everyday.
A reputable manufacturer will not sell you a dangerous product intentionally.
For instance, we have been installing whole house generators that do not have a UL listing and they are manufactured by some of the biggest names in the business.
Most of them are working on it.
One manufacturer that I spoke to the other day spent high six figures and over a year's worth of time getting his product line approved.
That being said, I would be leery of a chinese product that produces heat and has electrical components that are not UL approved.
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10-25-07, 06:00 PM
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I was unaware of the difference in approval requirements between the USA and Canada.
Here you are not permitted to sell any electrical device that connects directly or by a cord set that is not approved by a recognized inspection agency.
Also, if any unapproved device is found in an inspection the inspection will fail.
Here you are not permitted to sell any electrical device that connects directly or by a cord set that is not approved by a recognized inspection agency.
Also, if any unapproved device is found in an inspection the inspection will fail.
