Ceiling fan wiring woes
#1
Ceiling fan wiring woes
Just installed my new ceiling fan yesterday but all is not well.
Fan has 1 black, 1 blue, 1 white, and 2 green ground wires. Out of the ceiling there is one ground, 3 white, and 3 black. I connected the black and the blue wires to all 3 black and the white to all 3 white. Both greens to the ground. The fan worked but when I flipped the switch on the wall it tripped the breaker. I remembered that when taking down the old fan one of the white wires from the ceiling was conected with all the black wires. I reconnected my new fan in this configuration and the fan works. The good news is the light switch no longer trips the breaker, but now it seems to do nothing. It did control the lights on the old fan. Any ideas? Is it dangerous to have the white wire with the black ones?
Thank you for your help.
Fan has 1 black, 1 blue, 1 white, and 2 green ground wires. Out of the ceiling there is one ground, 3 white, and 3 black. I connected the black and the blue wires to all 3 black and the white to all 3 white. Both greens to the ground. The fan worked but when I flipped the switch on the wall it tripped the breaker. I remembered that when taking down the old fan one of the white wires from the ceiling was conected with all the black wires. I reconnected my new fan in this configuration and the fan works. The good news is the light switch no longer trips the breaker, but now it seems to do nothing. It did control the lights on the old fan. Any ideas? Is it dangerous to have the white wire with the black ones?
Thank you for your help.
#2
It sounds like you contradicted your self. you said that one of the whites was wired in with the blacks and that is how you wired it.
But you also said that you connected to fan black and blue to the 3 blacks, and the fan white to the 3 ceiling whites.
The white wire in the black group was power going to your switch. The black in the same cable would be a switch controlled hot so the switch would control your fan. You should identify the cable going to the switch and put the wiring back the way it should be. With the function of the white at the switch being changed you may have created a dead short causing the breaker to trip. Your switch may have failed open when this occurred.
The white wire going to the switch should have its color changed to prevent mistakes like this from happening and to avoid confusion. Use a black or red magic marker or some black tape at both ends of the wire.
PS, is this the Shady Side in SOCO, AA?
But you also said that you connected to fan black and blue to the 3 blacks, and the fan white to the 3 ceiling whites.
The white wire in the black group was power going to your switch. The black in the same cable would be a switch controlled hot so the switch would control your fan. You should identify the cable going to the switch and put the wiring back the way it should be. With the function of the white at the switch being changed you may have created a dead short causing the breaker to trip. Your switch may have failed open when this occurred.
The white wire going to the switch should have its color changed to prevent mistakes like this from happening and to avoid confusion. Use a black or red magic marker or some black tape at both ends of the wire.
PS, is this the Shady Side in SOCO, AA?
#3
Sound like you got the connection somehow mixed up due one sets of wire are switch loop and right now you have 3 pairs in the junction box and one pair will go to the switch junction box.
Once you get this fixed and make sure you remarked or tape the single white wire for switch loop as PCboss descrbing.
Oh yeah., you going to ask about the switch, get a new one the old switch you got on the wall is damaged from shortcircuit.
Merci,Marc
Once you get this fixed and make sure you remarked or tape the single white wire for switch loop as PCboss descrbing.
Oh yeah., you going to ask about the switch, get a new one the old switch you got on the wall is damaged from shortcircuit.
Merci,Marc
#4
pcboss - that is the right Shady Side. I'm not to sure what you are saying I should do. I think I understand the info of the black and white wire coming from the wall switch, but should they be hooked up with the other blacks and the black and blue from the fan? Is it that I have the wrong white wire hooked up with the blacks?
#5
In a switch loop the white wire brings power to the switch. The black in the same cable is now a switched hot. You may need to identify which cable goes to the switch so the splices can be made up correctly.
Whatever you wanted the switch to control woulde attach to this black. If you wanted pull chain operation the other black or blue wire would go to the bundle of blacks that are hot all the time.
Whatever you wanted the switch to control woulde attach to this black. If you wanted pull chain operation the other black or blue wire would go to the bundle of blacks that are hot all the time.