Issue Wiring Two Switches to One Fan

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Old 09-12-12, 02:15 PM
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Issue Wiring Two Switches to One Fan

I just purchased a house and had it built, and selected certain rooms to have block wiring, so it would have a switch for the fan and a switch for the light. I just purchased a fan(it came with a remote) and installed it yesterday. Without artistic skills and the fan in front of me, let me describe the setup:

Coming Out of Ceiling
Black Wire
Red Wire
White Wire
Ground Wire

Remote Control Receiver for Fan
Black Wire IN
White Wire IN
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Black Wire OUT
White Wire OUT
Blue Wire OUT

Actual Fan
Black Wire
White Wire
Blue Wire


Here is how I wired everything:
  • Black wire AND Red wire coming out of block to Black IN for the remote control receiver
  • White wire out of block to White IN for the remote control receiver
  • Grounds to grounds(duh)
  • White, Blue and Black from the remote control receiver to the White, Blue and Black from the actual fan.

To get the fan to function properly, I can have either light switch flipped up, but I need to have BOTH light switches flipped down for it to be "turned off".

Now, as I was typing this, I called up the "tech support" for Allen + Roth, and they advised me that fans with remote controllers won't work properly with dual light switches(one for light, one for fan). Is this correct, or is there a way to wire so both switches will work the way they're designed to? Perhaps bypass the control module with the red and connect it right to the fan somewhere, or what?

Any help for a first timer to the site??
 
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Old 09-12-12, 03:18 PM
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Yes, only the black should have been connected. The red should be capped off at the fan. You could also remove the switch if you want and replace the cover plate with one that has one blank or if Decora use a blank on the side where the switch was removed. If the switch is removed the red needs to be capped on both ends.
 
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Old 09-12-12, 04:34 PM
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is there a way to wire so both switches will work the way they're designed to? Perhaps bypass the control module with the red and connect it right to the fan somewhere, or what?
Yes. You can remove the remote receiver and connect:
  • All green and bare wires together;
  • White to white;
  • Black to fan motor;
  • Red to fan light.
 
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Old 09-13-12, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Nashkat1
Yes. You can remove the remote receiver and connect:
  • All green and bare wires together;
  • White to white;
  • Black to fan motor;
  • Red to fan light.

I gathered this from the forum, but if I wanted to keep the remote, and still be able to control the light/fan seperately? This particular unit doesn't have any pull strings, so it probably isn't too feasible to remove the remote considering the fan will be stuck on one setting
 
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Old 09-13-12, 10:27 AM
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if I wanted to keep the remote, and still be able to control the light/fan seperately? This particular unit doesn't have any pull strings, so it probably isn't too feasible to remove the remote considering the fan will be stuck on one setting
I'm sorry. I misunderstood your question. Yes, you can bypass the remote with either the red or the black wire and connect that wire directly to either the fan motor or the light, instead of connecting the fan motor or the light to the remote. You would just cap off the wire from the remote that you're not using.

If you do that, the remote will only control whichever piece of the combo it is connected to. It sounds like you would want that to be the fan motor. In that case, the remote receiver would be controlled from one of the wall switches and the light would be controlled from the other - but not from the remote. And no, you can't tie the red ceiling wire, the blue wire from the remote and the blue wire for the light all together. If doing that didn't fry the remote receiver, it would still override the control of the light by the remote.

This particular unit doesn't have any pull strings,
That's interesting. I wonder if they did that to prevent the fan from being started when it's not switched to high by the built-in switch.
 

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Old 09-13-12, 11:24 AM
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I too misunderstood your post. I tend to read to quickly some times. Sorry for my answer to your post.
 
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