Installing a chandelier where there was a fan/light

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Installing a chandelier where there was a fan/light

I would like to hang my chandelier where my fan/light used to be. I am not sure what to do with all of the wires. Here is a picture of what is on the ceiling.

My house was built in 1995. I believe the fan was on two switches, but only one switch worked to control the fan blades. The light on the fan never worked. I always assumed that the fan was broken.

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Welcome to the forums! The red and black wires are associated with the black and blue wires on your fan light. You most likely have two switches that control these two operations separately. Cap off the red wire, connect the black, white and ground to your new chandelier. Your next project will be eliminating one of the switches, so let us know if we can help there, too.
 
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Thank you chandler! Should I use the black white and ground from just one set of wires? and only cap the red wire from the other set?
 
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It appears from your picture that you have a 2-conductor cable bringing power from the panel and a 3-conductor cable connecting the ceiling box to the wall box. In addition, it appears that the ungrounded power from the panel is being sent to the switch box on the white wire in the 3-conductor cable, although that white wire has not been designated as an ungrounded conductor.

That is 90% correct for controlling two loads (the fan and the light), but not for a single load. For now though, cap the red wire, leave the black/white splice as you found it, and connect your fixture color-to-color to the remaining wires. Make sure all grounds are spliced together.
 
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Thank you so much for your help!
 
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Old 07-15-13, 09:36 PM
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You're welcome. What did you do and what was the result?
 
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I capped the red wire, connected the ground to the screw on the fixture, connected white to the wire with no writing on it. Then I connected the black wire to the wire withe the writing on it. I took apart the part that holds the lightbulb and found that the wire with the writing on it was connected to the bottom of the place where the bulb is screwed in. The wire with no writing on it was connected to the side of the bulb holder.

It works great!
 
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Glad you got it working, and thanks for letting us know how it turned out.
 
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Now a fan/light to where the chandelier was

Not so much a wiring question this time as a question about this electrical box. It does not look like the ones I have seen that are rated by UL as suitable for a fan. But as you can see in these pictures, it is screwed in to the wood by at least five screws.

Can I install my fan in this box as it is now?

Thank you!

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It is not how it is held to the ceiling members, it is how the fan itself will be attached to the ceiling box. You cannot use the ears alone to support a ceiling fan. See how this box utilizes larger screws (10-24) and they go through the box into threaded receptacles?

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I see. Thank you!

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Old 07-17-13, 05:45 PM
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When you install the fan box, use a ground screw to attach that ground wire, or a ground pigtail - to it. Please.
 
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I will do. Thank you!

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