Ceiling Fan Remote with 2 wires


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Old 04-21-14, 10:01 AM
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Ceiling Fan Remote with 2 wires

I have a ceiling fan that also has a light. Both items are controlled with a remote and also wired to a single pole light switch. The light switch has 2 wires (one black and one white). Everything works fine if the light switch is in the ON position. I would like to configure so that the light switch controls the light on the fan, but have the fan controlled with the remote. I can wire the light to go on and off with the switch, but if the switch is in the OFF position - then the fan does not work at all. There are also no pull chains for the light and fan.
 
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Old 04-21-14, 10:23 AM
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If your fan has a built in remote and only two wires it might not be practical. You'd have to redo the circuity of your fan.
 
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Not sure if this helps or not, but the remote receiver is wired up in the housing next to the ceiling. There are 3 wires on one side and 2 on the other side
 
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Old 04-21-14, 06:34 PM
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Not sure if this helps or not, but the remote receiver is wired up in the housing next to the ceiling. There are 3 wires on one side and 2 on the other side
Then why did you write:
Ceiling Fan Remote with 2 wires
Trying to confuse us?

Does the fan have a white, black, and blue wire? What are the remote wire colors and which are connected to which fan colors.
 
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Old 04-22-14, 10:18 AM
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I apologize for the confusion. There are 2 wires from the switch to the fan (black and white), these wires connect to 2 wires on the remote device at the fan. The fan has a white, blue, and black wire that are connected to 3 separate wires on remote receiver.

If I connect the blue wire from the fan with the black wire from the switch and receiver, the fan light goes on and off with the light switch - but the fan only works when the light is on.
 
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Old 04-22-14, 10:55 AM
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Does this help you? Guessed at a couple of wire colors but labeled those.

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the picture is close, but the fans blue wire is going to the remote as well
 
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Old 04-22-14, 04:42 PM
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That is the new wiring not the existing wiring. For the set up you requested the remote's light connection is capped off and not used. The light (blue wire) is connected directly to the switch loop black.
 
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Old 04-22-14, 04:46 PM
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A little modification to Ray's diagram.

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Thanks, PJ.

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Thanks, I am not in a position to try this for a couple of days
 
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Old 04-26-14, 05:42 AM
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I am currently away from home and have not had a chance to try this yet, but as I look at this diagram a little closer I am pretty sure I only have one wire pair coming from the switch (no power in line like the diagram). What would that change in this diagram. Also, is the wire going from the light to the fan/remote a jumper?
 
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Old 04-26-14, 07:28 AM
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You originally wrote:
The light switch has 2 wires (one black and one white).
If you have a black and white on a switch you have a switch loop. Excluding the rare 3rd junction box the only other likely scenario is two blacks on the switch and two or more whites connected only to each other.
is the wire going from the light to the fan/remote a jumper
No jumper. Just a connection to power from the switch and the neutral.The light is not connected to the remote.

When you verify the number of cables and connections at the switch we can provide modifications.
 
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I would like to configure so that the light switch controls the light on the fan, but have the fan controlled with the remote.

the picture is close, but the fans blue wire is going to the remote as well
If you want the light to be controlled by the switch, then the wire that feeds it -- the blue wire leading down into the fan's hub -- must be connected to the wire that brings power back up from the switch. That's the black wire in the cable labeled "Switch Loop."

PJ's modification to Ray's original diagram may help clarify this.
 

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ok, I am finally back home and at a point to work on this again
I have 1 white, 1 black, and a ground coming into the fan box. 1 white wire is connected to the remote receiver and the black wire is connected to a different wire on the remote receiver. Coming out of the fan is a white, black, and a blue wire. They are each connected to the white, black, and blue on the remote receiver. If I cap off the blue wire on the remote receiver and hook the blue light wire with the black coming from the ceiling, the light works on/off with the wall switch (good thing), however the fan only works when the light is on. Is there a way for me to have the fan work when the light is off?

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Old 05-11-14, 12:03 PM
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Ok...... I can see we are traveling in circles here. IF you only have one cable with two wires at your fan then you CANNOT control the light and fan separately. When the switch is on.... they are both on. When the switch is off they are both off.

You must not have a switch leg from the fan to the switch. You have power to the switch first and then to the light.
 
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That is what I was afraid of
The ceiling is a false ceiling. If I ever have a reason to have to take the panels out, then I may be inclined to run a new wire. Would I just need to replace the 2 wire cable with a 3 wire cable?
 
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Old 05-11-14, 01:19 PM
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Yes.... exactly. Then you would have a switched and always live line.
 
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Thanks for your help and sorry for the confusion over the course of the dialogue.
 
 

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